Looking for Solinsky 10k full race

where is it wrote:

Is there a full race video anywhere where Solinsky broke the American 10k record in his debut? All I can find are the final 3ish minutes:

https://youtu.be/5Rkvd5dfwMQ

Since FloTrack covered that race I would hope they would have it in their archives.

Oh man. Chris was clean as a whistle for this race!

Sad, Frustrated Coach wrote:

where is it wrote:

Is there a full race video anywhere where Solinsky broke the American 10k record in his debut? All I can find are the final 3ish minutes:

https://youtu.be/5Rkvd5dfwMQ

Since FloTrack covered that race I would hope they would have it in their archives.

Probably behind a paywall, right? Any other options?

Is a 26:59 really too crazy

In 1965 Ron Clarke ran 27:39 on some crappy cinders. (This is around the time of Mill's 28:17 AR

Then Nenow would eventually be the last guy to lower it until Meb with his 27:20 and then Meb's 27:13, In a few years later I think in a good paced race this was totally possible.

venmo me late, my guy

https://www.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=95&do=videos&video_id=25575

Solinsky's hamstring ripped from the bone. Nothing to see here, totally normal

dipst2ck wrote:

Is a 26:59 really too crazy

In 1965 Ron Clarke ran 27:39 on some crappy cinders. (This is around the time of Mill's 28:17 AR

Then Nenow would eventually be the last guy to lower it until Meb with his 27:20 and then Meb's 27:13, In a few years later I think in a good paced race this was totally possible.

This is an ignorant post. This was a race that was a huge upset and full of great runners using chasing the American record of that time. Rupp was supposed to win. It’s a great race and I want to see the whole video.

What you said is like saying Tiger chipping in to break a tie, winning the British Open with a birdie on 18 is worthless because plenty of people have Eagled the same hole.

where is it wrote:

dipst2ck wrote:

Is a 26:59 really too crazy

In 1965 Ron Clarke ran 27:39 on some crappy cinders. (This is around the time of Mill's 28:17 AR

Then Nenow would eventually be the last guy to lower it until Meb with his 27:20 and then Meb's 27:13, In a few years later I think in a good paced race this was totally possible.

This is an ignorant post. This was a race that was a huge upset and full of great runners using chasing the American record of that time. Rupp was supposed to win. It’s a great race and I want to see the whole video.

What you said is like saying Tiger chipping in to break a tie, winning the British Open with a birdie on 18 is worthless because plenty of people have Eagled the same hole.

Dude I was replying to the guy saying he was "as clean as a whistle" I was saying it wasn't "crazy" because it doesn't seem too far off for an American to run sub 27 whereas the other guy implied he was doping and jokingly said he was "as clean as a whistle"

dipst2ck wrote:

Is a 26:59 really too crazy

In 1965 Ron Clarke ran 27:39 on some crappy cinders. (This is around the time of Mill's 28:17 AR

Then Nenow would eventually be the last guy to lower it until Meb with his 27:20 and then Meb's 27:13, In a few years later I think in a good paced race this was totally possible.

This is a 6'2" runner weighing 157 lbs during that race. Please give that guy some credit among all the smaller, skinnier guys. He was a tall and heavy 5k/10k freak, just like the Australians Mottram and McSweyn. In HS Solinsky was almost like a monster, weighing above 170 lbs.

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

dipst2ck wrote:

Is a 26:59 really too crazy

In 1965 Ron Clarke ran 27:39 on some crappy cinders. (This is around the time of Mill's 28:17 AR

Then Nenow would eventually be the last guy to lower it until Meb with his 27:20 and then Meb's 27:13, In a few years later I think in a good paced race this was totally possible.

This is a 6'2" runner weighing 157 lbs during that race. Please give that guy some credit among all the smaller, skinnier guys. He was a tall and heavy 5k/10k freak, just like the Australians Mottram and McSweyn. In HS Solinsky was almost like a monster, weighing above 170 lbs.

I totally respect Solinsky and he's an inspiration we have the same body build. I was defending his time since someone was implying he wasn't clean

I’ll summarize the race commentary. They basically patronize CS at the beginning of the race all the way until the first half until they realize how wrong they were and then freak gradually until the end.

dipst2ck wrote:

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

This is a 6'2" runner weighing 157 lbs during that race. Please give that guy some credit among all the smaller, skinnier guys. He was a tall and heavy 5k/10k freak, just like the Australians Mottram and McSweyn. In HS Solinsky was almost like a monster, weighing above 170 lbs.

I totally respect Solinsky and he's an inspiration we have the same body build. I was defending his time since someone was implying he wasn't clean

Ok, you didn't quote the previous post so I thought you were underplaying Solinsky's performance as in "26:59 isn't crazy and not worth mentioning here".

Thing about Solinsky is he didn't just appear out of nowhere, he grinded 80-100 mpw in HS (all at sub 6, no junk miles) while other kids were doing 50 mpw. That makes a huge difference in building his aerobic base. He was much more like an East African jogging to and from school every day for lots of miles when he was young as compared to the 50 mpw HS kids doing intense track workouts all the time.

where is it wrote:

dipst2ck wrote:

Is a 26:59 really too crazy

In 1965 Ron Clarke ran 27:39 on some crappy cinders. (This is around the time of Mill's 28:17 AR

Then Nenow would eventually be the last guy to lower it until Meb with his 27:20 and then Meb's 27:13, In a few years later I think in a good paced race this was totally possible.

This is an ignorant post. This was a race that was a huge upset and full of great runners using chasing the American record of that time. Rupp was supposed to win. It’s a great race and I want to see the whole video.

What you said is like saying Tiger chipping in to break a tie, winning the British Open with a birdie on 18 is worthless because plenty of people have Eagled the same hole.

Dipstick’s already explained this, but your comprehension is terrible.

It was once on youtube. Flotrack realized how lucrative it is to make people pay for a month or year to watch a single race though and thus locked it away in Fort Flotrack behind their pay walls.

dipst2ck wrote:

where is it wrote:

This is an ignorant post. This was a race that was a huge upset and full of great runners using chasing the American record of that time. Rupp was supposed to win. It’s a great race and I want to see the whole video.

What you said is like saying Tiger chipping in to break a tie, winning the British Open with a birdie on 18 is worthless because plenty of people have Eagled the same hole.

Dude I was replying to the guy saying he was "as clean as a whistle" I was saying it wasn't "crazy" because it doesn't seem too far off for an American to run sub 27 whereas the other guy implied he was doping and jokingly said he was "as clean as a whistle"

Ah, my bad. I thought you were referring to the race not being impressive because it was only 26:59. My bad.

Thanks for the person who posted the Runnersspace link. I did enjoy the FloTrack commentary, but this is better than nothing.

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

dipst2ck wrote:

I totally respect Solinsky and he's an inspiration we have the same body build. I was defending his time since someone was implying he wasn't clean

Ok, you didn't quote the previous post so I thought you were underplaying Solinsky's performance as in "26:59 isn't crazy and not worth mentioning here".

Thing about Solinsky is he didn't just appear out of nowhere, he grinded 80-100 mpw in HS (all at sub 6, no junk miles) while other kids were doing 50 mpw. That makes a huge difference in building his aerobic base. He was much more like an East African jogging to and from school every day for lots of miles when he was young as compared to the 50 mpw HS kids doing intense track workouts all the time.

And that is why his pro career is just one good time trial. Won nothing.

Burned himself out run 100 mpw sub 6 in high school.

I swear your one of the most ignorant people on here LateRunnerPhil.

shootpost wrote:

And that is why his pro career is just one good time trial. Won nothing.

Burned himself out run 100 mpw sub 6 in high school.

I swear your one of the most ignorant people on here LateRunnerPhil.

I wish we had more athletes like him and less haters like you.

This 10k is one of my favorite races to rewatch, but Sad, Frustrated Coach, denying that shootpost is at least partially correct is just wrong. I wouldn’t say his pro career is just one good time trial, but this has to to be his peak as an athlete — a relatively obscure meet when compared to US champs/ Olympic trials, not to mention world champs and olympics.

He burned the candle from both ends by training so hard, as he has admitted, and reached heights like this and the 3 or 4 sub 13’s in one season.

The fact is, he was done as a truly competitive athlete by the the time he was 26 and doesn’t have a US title to his name. If he reigns it in in training perhaps he has a longer career but doesn’t have the peaks like 26:59 and 12:55.

You (and the other guy you referred to) are really complaining about a sub 27 guy who was tall and heavy (not ideal for distance running) not performing up to standards? That's crazy!

Reason for his short career was that he tripped over his dog when walking stairs, fell and tore off his entire hamstring. Sure that doesn't normally happen with tripping, and it's likely that being overtrained and his body pushed at the limits contributed to it and just needed that one little extra thing to melt down but who knows for how much longer his career could have gone on had he not have had that dog and fell during that day.

I don't think he was training smart (he did opposite of Tinman philosophy), but his big, robust, heavy body and bones allowed him to not break down earlier in his life and somehow get away with it. But the performances speak for themselves!!