Originally, I started this thread as a question, "Is this guy wearing New Balance flats or Next%?"
Andrew Davies set the British record for 40+ in Valencia. 2:14:38. What shoes is he wearing?
We now have the answer. See below.
Originally, I started this thread as a question, "Is this guy wearing New Balance flats or Next%?"
Andrew Davies set the British record for 40+ in Valencia. 2:14:38. What shoes is he wearing?
We now have the answer. See below.
That's New balances current prototype to compete against the Vaporfly. They've been working on it a few months now and in the last month have released a larger number of them to several of their pro runners
New Balance FuelCell Racer.
https://tracktalk.net/uploads/default/original/3X/a/1/a1f9f6ec2584298e2898734d74bc584868530a85.jpeg
I think: 30mm heel, 20mm forefoot, FuelCell foam, and similar plate to 5280 that allows for lateral flex and snaps forward. So probably not as stiff as the Vaporfly, different plate technology.
Scottykrutz wrote:
That's New balances current prototype to compete against the Vaporfly. They've been working on it a few months now and in the last month have released a larger number of them to several of their pro runners
pretty sure they've been working on it for more than a few months
Zante wrote:
New Balance FuelCell Racer.
https://tracktalk.net/uploads/default/original/3X/a/1/a1f9f6ec2584298e2898734d74bc584868530a85.jpegI think: 30mm heel, 20mm forefoot, FuelCell foam, and similar plate to 5280 that allows for lateral flex and snaps forward. So probably not as stiff as the Vaporfly, different plate technology.
Looks much nicer than the Nikes.
Is it lighter or heavier than the Vaporflys? I believe Saucony’s prototype is heavier.
I’ve heard that the NB shoe is also a bit stiffer than the Vaporfly, which has sponges foam. The NB shoe is more stable which could potentially be helpful regarding injuries and loading issues that some people have with the super soft and sponges Vaporfly.
RSAR wrote:
Zante wrote:
New Balance FuelCell Racer.
https://tracktalk.net/uploads/default/original/3X/a/1/a1f9f6ec2584298e2898734d74bc584868530a85.jpegI think: 30mm heel, 20mm forefoot, FuelCell foam, and similar plate to 5280 that allows for lateral flex and snaps forward. So probably not as stiff as the Vaporfly, different plate technology.
Looks much nicer than the Nikes.
im not in love with the looks of the vaporfly, but this NB shoe almost couldn't be any uglier, imo
For sure it will be heavier than the vaporfly - fuelcell foam is not that light
Also I don't feel the fuelcell foam is that great anyway vs ZoomX.
King Tiger wrote:
For sure it will be heavier than the vaporfly - fuelcell foam is not that light
Also I don't feel the fuelcell foam is that great anyway vs ZoomX.
Wrong about the fuel cell foam weight. It's likely using the foam and similar idea to the 5280. Which is the closest thing I've warn to the ZoomX shoes.
How about the Hoka Carbon X? That's a nice-looking shoe! Strava says it's the hot new shoe on its platform.
https://runningmagazine.ca/the-scene/stravas-fastest-growing-shoe-hint-its-not-nike/
Davies is a former semi-pro soccer player that has been running for a number of years. He made a couple of International Teams for Wales and Great Britain without ever breaking 2:15. Interestingly, he finished about three and a half minutes behind Steve Way in the 2014 Commonwealth Games when Way set the previous record.
I think this is pretty good evidence of the premise that if you've been steadfastly refusing to buy the Vaporfly or hoping it will get banned, you're SOL. In 2-3 years, each brand will have their answer and the IAAF will have probably added some very loose guidelines to keep it from going out of control. Definitely no ban — the new technology and running efficiency improvements are here to stay and there'll be shared by almost everyone soon enough.
Wow that guy ran a 2.14?
Just based on his photos posted above, he doesn't look like a sub 2.15 marathoner. Or over 40.
100% Valencia!
I know a test wearer for NB. The shoe is very light and has a good snap with the foam, plate and shape. Not as bulky as the Vaporfly and the first 4%. The wearer misses having them around once they had to be returned.
John Clendon wrote:
King Tiger wrote:
For sure it will be heavier than the vaporfly - fuelcell foam is not that light
Also I don't feel the fuelcell foam is that great anyway vs ZoomX.
Wrong about the fuel cell foam weight. It's likely using the foam and similar idea to the 5280. Which is the closest thing I've warn to the ZoomX shoes.
this is probably true, i.e. not exactly fuel cell foam. I was told the had a prototype ready but was too heavy. I'm guessing that was a version using current fuel cell foam. Supposedly they have something lighter now, which likely will be using an improved fuel cell.
What shoes is he wearing?
No. What shoes are he wearing.
rojo wrote:
Originally, I started this thread as a question, "Is this guy wearing New Balance flats or Next%?"
We now have the answer. See below.
What a bizarre lack of outrage you're exhibiting, Rojo. Pretty sure the other 40 year olds in that race didn't have access to them.
I suppose you picked your side long ago.
How is it possible to break a record without the 4%? The 4% is too good and automatically makes you way faster, every record should be with those shoes.
Rojo,
On your podcast you always exclaim that the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Olympic Men's Marathon should be "invalidated", since the top 3 and other Nike sponsored athletes had the prototype 4% shoes. Do you believe this British 40+ marathon record set by Andrew Davies should be "invalidated" as well?