Brett Larner has a great piece up about how fast some of the Japanese marthoners are who didn't even make their Olympic Marathon Trials.
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/2019/09/dreams-unfulfilled-mgc-race-olympic.html
Brett Larner has a great piece up about how fast some of the Japanese marthoners are who didn't even make their Olympic Marathon Trials.
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/2019/09/dreams-unfulfilled-mgc-race-olympic.html
I know Japan has way more 2:10-2:15 guys than we do, but it is completely asinine that guys that have recently run 2:09-2:12 (sometimes multiple times) won’t even be there. These are guys that theoretically would have a shot to make the damn team if it all came together on the right day.
This isn’t Ethiopia or Kenya where runners of this caliber would be afterthoughts. Using an average time of two marathons as a qualifier is unnecessary and does nothing to help Japanese runners compete on the world stage.
Japan is just so competitive in everything they do . It's actually indimitating whether people admit it or not .
That is asinine wrote:
. These are guys that theoretically would have a shot to make the damn team if it all came together on the right day.
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I’m guessing this is exactly what they don’t want.
Let’s say everything comes together and one of these people qualifies. What are the chances everything will come together again for them during the olympics?
It’s called quality control. If you want the tightest fitting nuts and bolts, buy Japanese.
Japan is the model the US should follow to improve out Marathoning.
This is interesting because in 2016, the U.S. had to relax its OTQ standard to match the IAAF Olympic standard because (as I understand it), the US trials standard could not be stricter than the Olympic qualifying standard. e.g. the men's was relaxed from 2:18 to 2:19.
So too tight then? Until they break? I think that's a perfect metaphor here.
DietBacon wrote:
That is asinine wrote:
. These are guys that theoretically would have a shot to make the damn team if it all came together on the right day.
.
I’m guessing this is exactly what they don’t want.
Let’s say everything comes together and one of these people qualifies. What are the chances everything will come together again for them during the olympics?
Probably about the same as the chances of the guy who had 3 races where it all came together coming up with a 4th time?
Realistically most of these people would be field fillers. Leaving off the 2:26 gal is questionable as she has the track times to suggest 2:22 is somewhat reasonable. Not many of the guys have anything to suggest they will be 2:08 low type guys. Realistically we are talking mainly about field fillers.
Note the womans field is 12 people. That is pretty darn small. The 32 people in the mens field is pretty solid. So with these standards (and say top 3 americans at boston/NYC/Chicago under 2:11/2:25), what would the US field look like?:)
In in the meanwhile Jim Walmsley is dreaming of winning the US Olympic trails with his 1:04:00 Half.
In the mean time the US has a load of guys who will run 2:10 any day now.
Bump. Race is on
Bib #1 wrote:
Bump. Race is on
Watching them warm up live on the stream.
This is awesome wrote:
Bib #1 wrote:
Bump. Race is on
Watching them warm up live on the stream.
Me too. Those Japanese broadcasters sure do bow a lot
Bib #1 wrote:
This is awesome wrote:
Watching them warm up live on the stream.
Me too. Those Japanese broadcasters sure do bow a lot
FYI, what sounds like 'hi' to us means yes in Japanese.
2:08, over or under the winning time for the men?
I get no sound on TV Japan Live TBS channel. Anyone else watching from there?
yeah, no sound here either.
I'm getting sound on the HNK stream, I found on the other thread.