No way Aussie Jessica Hull takes 34.61 off her best 5000 time in Berlin?

Wow. That is smoking. No more XC eligibility?

she has graduated and is a Pro with NOP.

time flies wrote:

Wow. That is smoking. No more XC eligibility?

Follow the sport pretty closely, don't you?

Aussiestatman wrote:

Fourth in 15.00.32, current NCAA champ over 3000. Ranked 25 at 1500. Put it into perspective: only 12 women ran faster last year, would have won the US champs [indeed, no American woman has run that quick this year], would have finished 16th in the London DL [1.3 behind Salpeter], and only needs to find another 13 sec to hold the Australian record [recorded by Benita Johnson at the same meet in 2002].

Sounds about right for a 4:02 runner in the 1500. But it is impressive that she's able to have that range now versus taking a couple years to learn the 5k. Just goes to show the Oregon coaches know what they are doing, they turned her into a beast.

She has had one of the most consistently improving years I can remember, all the way back to indoors. Seems like a contender for 2020 for sure.

[quote]sounds right wrote:

It is impressive that she's able to have that range now versus taking a couple years to learn the 5k.[quote]

She has the 2019 and 2020 standards for both the 1500 and 5000. Does anyone know what she's running in Doha? Or thoughts about which she should run?

I would assume that she runs 1500m in Doha mainly because she seems considerably more experienced at that distance.

She cannot be certain to make the final in either event although in theory both 4:03 and 15:00 could be good enough but these were both in paced races.

Jo72 wrote:

she has graduated and is a Pro with NOP.

Fake news

sounds right wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Fourth in 15.00.32, current NCAA champ over 3000. Ranked 25 at 1500. Put it into perspective: only 12 women ran faster last year, would have won the US champs [indeed, no American woman has run that quick this year], would have finished 16th in the London DL [1.3 behind Salpeter], and only needs to find another 13 sec to hold the Australian record [recorded by Benita Johnson at the same meet in 2002].

Sounds about right for a 4:02 runner in the 1500. But it is impressive that she's able to have that range now versus taking a couple years to learn the 5k. Just goes to show the Oregon coaches know what they are doing, they turned her into a beast.

great improvement especially in cross from 2017 to 2018-from midpack at NCAAs to 3rd...tells you that she had the strength but still another big breakthrough from her 5000m this spring...

Hull is a tough little kangaroo! 15 flat is def equiv to a 402 or so . 15:34 , who knows what was going on in that race . She does well with fast paces to . She can hurt !

Come on now wrote:

Jo72 wrote:

she has graduated and is a Pro with NOP.

Fake news

Keep up bro

Dr No wrote:

Hull is a tough little kangaroo! 15 flat is def equiv to a 402 or so . 15:34 , who knows what was going on in that race . She does well with fast paces to . She can hurt !

She ran that 15:34 at Stanford at the very beginning of outdoor season late March / Early April. She could have very well taken a small break after indoor. Plus, she just sat until the last lap and closed in a 64. Far from indicative of her true 5k ability. I'm actually pretty impressed that she's been able to have this much improvement after a long season.

There's a lot of questions marks in the women's 1500m globally right now. Most of the women did not look particularly great in the DL final. And the 2 women that went 1-2 in that race, she's going to training with. I think there's a very solid possibility she makes the WC final.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Fourth in 15.00.32, current NCAA champ over 3000. Ranked 25 at 1500. Put it into perspective: only 12 women ran faster last year, would have won the US champs [indeed, no American woman has run that quick this year], would have finished 16th in the London DL [1.3 behind Salpeter], and only needs to find another 13 sec to hold the Australian record [recorded by Benita Johnson at the same meet in 2002].

She would have 0 percent chance at winning a US title. theres like 5 or 6 us women who can and have run in that 15:00-05 range. This is not including Shelby Houlihan the sub 2, sub 4, and sub 14:40 woman.

Based squeaky Aussie. She has to be one of the fastest clean women in the world.

Clean? NOP?

westsouthrunner wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Fourth in 15.00.32, current NCAA champ over 3000. Ranked 25 at 1500. Put it into perspective: only 12 women ran faster last year, would have won the US champs [indeed, no American woman has run that quick this year], would have finished 16th in the London DL [1.3 behind Salpeter], and only needs to find another 13 sec to hold the Australian record [recorded by Benita Johnson at the same meet in 2002].

She would have 0 percent chance at winning a US title. theres like 5 or 6 us women who can and have run in that 15:00-05 range. This is not including Shelby Houlihan the sub 2, sub 4, and sub 14:40 woman.

Maybe she doesn't beat Houlihan, but with a 4:02/15:00 she would have had just as good of a chance as Schweizer/Purrier/Schneider in getting 2nd.

Purrier ran 15:08 this year basically solo. Hull got dragged to 15:00 and got beat by the pacer. I'd take Purrier.

Also saying "she would win US nationals with that time" and then saying "forget Houlihan" is kind of hilarious. I'd win the Olympics if the people faster than me weren't in it too.

If we are talking about versatile, recent collegiate grads, gets forgotten that Gabriela DeBues Stafford only graduated from the University of Toronto this June. She's a year older (23), but is 3:59/14:51 this season. Beat Dibaba, Tseguy, Simpson, Arafi, in Zurich - will be exciting what she can do now she's done her studies.

whitedoesnotmeanclean wrote:

Clean? NOP?

This. It seems like a lot of posters are ignoring the fact that Hull is in the NOP. My “Sleazy Sal’s special sauce” post was deleted, BTW.

I'd take Purrier wrote:

Purrier ran 15:08 this year basically solo. Hull got dragged to 15:00 and got beat by the pacer. I'd take Purrier.

Also saying "she would win US nationals with that time" and then saying "forget Houlihan" is kind of hilarious. I'd win the Olympics if the people faster than me weren't in it too.

If we are talking about versatile, recent collegiate grads, gets forgotten that Gabriela DeBues Stafford only graduated from the University of Toronto this June. She's a year older (23), but is 3:59/14:51 this season. Beat Dibaba, Tseguy, Simpson, Arafi, in Zurich - will be exciting what she can do now she's done her studies.

Purrier had a rabbit the first half and it's still a whole 8 seconds. And you act like the rabbit in Berlin wasn't a stud. 10 of the top 11 at the london DL were all Kenyan, they have depth.

Purrier has similar 1500m speed (4:02) but go outkicked by Schweizer at nationals who has only run 4:06 for 1500m and ran 15:01 at the Sunset Tour meet where she was dragged for 4200m. Hull has consistently shown to have a better kick than Purrier. I'm not taking anything against Purrier, but your comment is a little misleading.

Plus, it's not like Houlihan won with ease, she was doubling back and still look pretty fairly tired down the home stretch. I don't think it would have be outlandish to say Hull could have contended for the win.