Donovan Brazier has become skinny after joining NOP

Who is Donovan Brazier?

Commenting on the weight of a guy who is ~ 10 seconds fater than you at a distance under a mile is a zero sum game.

Rtyui wrote:

Who is Donovan Brazier?

He is the son of Donovan Philips Leitch. His dad made some kick ass songs back in the day.

jamin wrote:

Not surprising. Probably has to do 3 hours of underwater treadmill every day and only allowed to eat salads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJb8s3XeblM

I am not a fan of high mileage training, in general for 800m runners but for Brazier, most likely an increase in mileage will help him. He does not need to improve his 800m personal best to medal in World Championships and/or Olympics. Brazier needs to improve his recovery through the rounds. Many have said over the years that Brazier chokes. Not true. I can tell he has had dead legs. He'll medal at W.C. if he's running more miles.

not a fan of ... wrote:

I am not a fan of high mileage training, in general for 800m runners but for Brazier, most likely an increase in mileage will help him. He does not need to improve his 800m personal best to medal in World Championships and/or Olympics. Brazier needs to improve his recovery through the rounds. Many have said over the years that Brazier chokes. Not true. I can tell he has had dead legs. He'll medal at W.C. if he's running more miles.

He's never had any problem running rounds. When he bombs out (OT, world indoors, etc) it's always in round 1. When he makes it to the final he wins.

zero sum game guy wrote:

Commenting on the weight of a guy who is ~ 10 seconds fater than you at a distance under a mile is a zero sum game.

This right here^

With Salazar training its inevitable

Letsrun is not the cool wrote:

zero sum game guy wrote:

Commenting on the weight of a guy who is ~ 10 seconds fater than you at a distance under a mile is a zero sum game.

This right here^

I know people who are fanatical about other sports(talking about the mainstream one's: football, basketball, baseball). And they talk about the players weight all the time. "The quarterback needs to pack on 20 ibs" or "X player is in better shape this season, you can tell he has lost at least X amount of ibs", are you telling me those guys should not make those comments because they are not elite at those sports? Running is the only sport I know of where talking about the weight of elites is taboo for whatever reason. All the mainstream sports I can find out in no time what X player height and weight is. Not true for running.

What will you do when he runs the American Record? Complain some more about how skinny he is? The same complaining you made about Rupp before he ran 26:44 and the same complaint before Hasay ran 2:20 and Centro won Gold and Farah dominated?

Okay.

There's never been any doubt that everyone at NOP gets legal thyroid medicine to help maintain low weight, has there?

what are you talking about? wrote:

Letsrun is not the cool wrote:

This right here^

I know people who are fanatical about other sports(talking about the mainstream one's: football, basketball, baseball). And they talk about the players weight all the time. "The quarterback needs to pack on 20 ibs" or "X player is in better shape this season, you can tell he has lost at least X amount of ibs", are you telling me those guys should not make those comments because they are not elite at those sports? Running is the only sport I know of where talking about the weight of elites is taboo for whatever reason. All the mainstream sports I can find out in no time what X player height and weight is. Not true for running.

It's a LetsRun-ism. He's the zero sum game guy. Regarding Donovan Brazier, I have nothing insightful to add but can only say that he is an immensely talented runner. I wonder what his 400 time is now, in theory. Better, same, or worse? In any case, he's a good man.

While his name was undoubtedly supposed to be Donovan, that's not how it got spelled when it was written on his birth certificate.

You jelly, bro?

You can lose weight via many different diets or methods. It does not automatically mean that they were put on some big drug regimen. Lower calories on top of higher calorie outputs equals weight loss.

What am I missing? He's always been skinny. He's a runner not a shot putter.

Clenbuterol. Great for reducing body fat.

zero sum game guy wrote:

Commenting on the weight of a guy who is ~ 10 seconds fater than you at a distance under a mile is a zero sum game.

Hey, zero sum commenting commenter guy,

Commenting on comments about elite 800 guys is open game for comments.

Not a zero sum game at all.

The 800 exemplifies more variation of body types, weight, and heights than any other t&f event. You got skinnies, bulkies, tall dudes, short dudes, and even guy dudes running as lady dudes.

And while most will never scratch within 10 seconds of these guys, some of us can actually get within 6 seconds but this is LRC, home of much worse comments, so saying "Don is skinny now" is neither offensive nor innacurate.

Put you sensitive sensitivities aside now, oh sensitive one.

The Nike Androgen Project wrote:

There's never been any doubt that everyone at NOP gets legal thyroid medicine to help maintain low weight, has there?

That would be stupid and counter productive. Getting down to racing weight is not really that difficult.

Looks the same to me.