Why do Jerry Schumacher and Mark Wetmore get a pass while NOP are hated?

Wait, Solinsky was on thyroid meds? They must've gave him the wrong kind.

Probably because Jerry left over what he saw going on. That's the reason he left. Because he saw they were cheating.

Where does Jerry say this?

Jerry was never with. NOP. He was recruited from Wisconsin to co-coach the Oregon Track Club. He reportedly left because of suffering coaching philosophies between two very hard headed individuals (JS and AS). The BTC (JS) and NOP (AS) were then born. You're commenting on things that you seem to have very little grasp of regarding even basic information.

D. Greenleaf wrote:

Jerry was never with. NOP. He was recruited from Wisconsin to co-coach the Oregon Track Club. He reportedly left because of suffering coaching philosophies between two very hard headed individuals (JS and AS). The BTC (JS) and NOP (AS) were then born. You're commenting on things that you seem to have very little grasp of regarding even basic information.

Stand up Mr. Strawman. You are arguing technicality in an area where it doesn't matter. All above it true whether OTC, BTC or NOP. The connections are all real and I haven't posted anything which isn't backed up by fact.

He's right. Schumacher never coached at NOP. And how do you know it wasn't Salazar that suggested Solinsky visit Brown when he was with the original OTC?

For some reason, the Brojos hate Mary Decker, and that has translated to them hating Salazar and NOP. But now they are dickriding Yomif, which is weird.

It’s about a lot more than Dr. Brown.

1) Did any of them test topical steroids on their son to see what levels trigger a positive test?

2) Have any of them coached a convicted doper (Slaney)?

3) Have trainers found IV needles in any of their rooms?

4) Have any of them exceeded WADA IV dosage limits?

5) Have any of them had athletes come forward that their coach asked them to take someone else’s medicine that they didn’t have a script for?

Solinsky was coached by Schumacher and by that time, they hated each other.

You forgot that Solinsky was also taking 10,000IU of Vitamin D every week op.

sleazazar wrote:

It’s about a lot more than Dr. Brown.

1) Did any of them test topical steroids on their son to see what levels trigger a positive test?

2) Have any of them coached a convicted doper (Slaney)?

3) Have trainers found IV needles in any of their rooms?

4) Have any of them exceeded WADA IV dosage limits?

5) Have any of them had athletes come forward that their coach asked them to take someone else’s medicine that they didn’t have a script for?

All is ok once you don't do those sleazazar? I didn't know complicit TUE was ok once another coach has more dirty ties.

NOPOGEN wrote:

sleazazar wrote:

It’s about a lot more than Dr. Brown.

1) Did any of them test topical steroids on their son to see what levels trigger a positive test?

2) Have any of them coached a convicted doper (Slaney)?

3) Have trainers found IV needles in any of their rooms?

4) Have any of them exceeded WADA IV dosage limits?

5) Have any of them had athletes come forward that their coach asked them to take someone else’s medicine that they didn’t have a script for?

All is ok once you don't do those sleazazar? I didn't know complicit TUE was ok once another coach has more dirty ties.

You asked why they aren’t viewed/treated the same. I gave you 5 reasons. Would you like more?

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

Pope T-Bag II wrote:

Probably because Jerry left over what he saw going on. That's the reason he left. Because he saw they were cheating.

Where does Jerry say this?

He didn't. Publicly.

sleazazar wrote:

NOPOGEN wrote:

All is ok once you don't do those sleazazar? I didn't know complicit TUE was ok once another coach has more dirty ties.

You asked why they aren’t viewed/treated the same. I gave you 5 reasons. Would you like more?

Why won't Jerry open his mouth to USADA if he is so innocent?

NOPOGEN wrote:

sleazazar wrote:

You asked why they aren’t viewed/treated the same. I gave you 5 reasons. Would you like more?

Why won't Jerry open his mouth to USADA if he is so innocent?

What?

All the proof I need is Courtney Frerichs and Shelby Houlihan's progression from also rans in two years.

3:57? in with all the eastern bloc, chinese and convicted dopers.

All nikers are dopers wrote:

All the proof I need is Courtney Frerichs and Shelby Houlihan's progression from also rans in two years.

3:57? in with all the eastern bloc, chinese and convicted dopers.

Frerichs has steadily improved every year since taking up running late in high school.

Teg definitely experienced noticeable physical gains from about May 2005 to December 2005. There was a flotrack video that confronted him on this and ot was overwhelmingly obvious if you knew him at the time. No doubt in my mind he did something with science in that time frame which induced this phenomena.

Solinsky's achilles heel was his hamstring which basically had its muscle ripped from the bone. One could posit this perhaps had something to do with PED use. Personally, I think Solinsky would only do things he knew other people were doing and would not be a Guinea pig himself. He would have done the same things Galen was doing just to beat Galen at his own game. May have not been actual PEDs after all but rather a series of grey area practices. Be aware of the reason his competitive career ended though.

Dopey Badgers wrote:

Teg definitely experienced noticeable physical gains from about May 2005 to December 2005. There was a flotrack video that confronted him on this and ot was overwhelmingly obvious if you knew him at the time. No doubt in my mind he did something with science in that time frame which induced this phenomena.

BS. I’ve known Teg since 1999 and the above is silly. Like the OP, just trying to deflect from Al’s shadiness.

Moberly man wrote:

All nikers are dopers wrote:

All the proof I need is Courtney Frerichs and Shelby Houlihan's progression from also rans in two years.

3:57? in with all the eastern bloc, chinese and convicted dopers.

Frerichs has steadily improved every year since taking up running late in high school.

9:31->9:03 in 2 years. 16 second PR outta nowhere in World championship final.

If anyone else done that, Coburn would be all over it saying it's impossible to run races all season and drop 15 seconds in one.