Sub 4 1500!!! How Hard it is?

So, you are a 2:02 800 / 16:25 5k guy. My calculations puts you at about a 4:20 1500m. Sorry dude, it's going to take you a few YEARS of consistent training to even sniff at sub 4.

More like 4:30-4:34 for 1500, depending on whether the 5000 was on the track or on the roads.

kshitijmiler wrote:

How hard is it to break 4 in the 1500. Presently on week 6 at 80 miles with 1 long run Upto 30 km Progressive and rest days alternating long easy with hard short days.

Running my debut 1500 in 4 months!

PB's 400 - 5, 800 - 2'02 ,5km - 16'25 , 10k - 34'55

Any resource would be great!

Ask eddylee (one of the most classic LRC threads ever):

Impressive 400m!

Assuming the 400m time is 55, with 2:02, you don't need to improve your 800m much to have a good shot at sub 4 1500.

If you get down to 1:58, then you can run pretty close with specific training geared to the 1500m.

30k runs aren't part of that specific training. How about a lot of track work and tempos instead?

Depends on how long you have been running. If this is your first year running, you will get there much easier than if it has taken you many years to get to where you are.

That being said, 4 in the 1500 is a mental barrier just as much so as a physical barrier. You're mileage is plenty, and if you do a lot of specific work for 1500 for your CURRENT fitness, and work on a touch of speed, you should be able to get there. Probably not this year, but eventually.

My debut in the 1500 freshman year of college was 4:02, and it was the first race of the season. I didn't break 4 that season... Got down to 4:00.1. Next year I dropped my XC times by 1 minute, and that outdoor season only ended up running 3:59... The year after that smashed through and ran 3:55, but felt like I was in shape to run even faster.

Times at the time of each;

Freshman year: 49.3 - 400; 1:53.8 - 800; 4:00.1 - 1500; 27:02 8K.

Soph Year: 49.8 - 400; 1:54.4 - 800; 3:59.6 - 1500; 25:50 8K.

Junior Year: 49.6 - 400; 1:56.2 - 800; 3:55.2 - 1500; 25:03 8K.

That being said the following times don't guarantee anything. My teammate didn't break 2:00 in the 800 (2:01) and didnt break 26:30 8K and was able to run 3:57. So I guess I just suck at racing.

Your 800/1500 times are pretty bad when taking your 400m speed and 8k endurance.

Ask Ed Lee

you've got a ways to go. When I broke 4:00, I was 1:54 in the 800, 9:20 in the steeple and 14:50 in the 5k. That being said, it is not unattainable.

avzxcvzxcv wrote:

Assuming the 400m time is 55, with 2:02, you don't need to improve your 800m much to have a good shot at sub 4 1500.

If you get down to 1:58, then you can run pretty close with specific training geared to the 1500m.

30k runs aren't part of that specific training. How about a lot of track work and tempos instead?

Garbage sub 4 is a lot harder than sub 2 and he'd need to knock over a minute off his 5km time

You are training 80 miles a week, can only manage a 2:02 800m and you think you can break 4 in the 1500m? Dude, you must be a troll.

I predict 4:22 at best.

My PR for 1500 is currently 4:20 and I wasn't even close to 2:02 for 800. At a lot of the meets where I ran 1500s last season, I would run 400s later in the meet and would mostly run 60/61, sometimes slower and sometimes faster.

And I doubt I could run either of the OP's 5k/10k times.

With OP's times at other distances I would want to run at least 4:15 for the 1500, and more like 4:10 after at least 5 races.

Or should I be running some track 5ks?