New documentary tonight. Looks from the news article damaging to Coe.
Wait to hear both sides, but still....
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New documentary tonight. Looks from the news article damaging to Coe.
Wait to hear both sides, but still....
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One of the texts quoted by the BBC is interesting:
Diack Jr to Davies: "Speak to Phil Knight for confirmation of Steve Miller (USATF delegate to Congress) for his pledge!!??"
Davies: "Done!"
Diack Jr: "Just bumped into Seb - he is extremely grateful for your advice and friendship - see you later!"
Was Phil Knight (Nike) dictating to the USATF to vote for Coe, a Nike employee?
"The BBC showed these text messages to Jack Robertson, a former chief investigator for the World Anti-Doping Agency and the man who investigated the Shobukhova doping scandal.
"It appears that Coe is taking advice from someone who is at the centre of this scandal to extort athletes," said Robertson.
"It's wrong on so many fronts. It's not just disappointing, it's disgusting." "
Coe is a sickening sycophant.
A news story that gives Steve Miller's background and explains his connection to Nike/Phil Knight:
Because USATF has Steve Miller on the job. Quit it, all you sophomoric people—he’s neither a joker, a smoker nor a midnight toker. But he was the director of Global Sports Marketing at Nike prior to 2009, when he joined the USATF board of directors. He steps up to fill the chairman seat of that board vacated by Stephanie Hightower. Hightower will now be the USATF representative at the IAAF, a position 85 percent of USATF members wanted Bob Hersh to have. The good folks on the board at USATF disregarded that vote entirely and named Hightower to the international spot. Steve Miller was in on that sleight of hand.
Luckily, Miller has put all those Nike associations and allegiances behind him. All those Nike connections, and the troubling doping associations. All in the past. What’s that you say? Hanging out with dopers? A Nike executive?
USATF doesn’t allow just any greasy bum to chair their board of directors. Under a headline that reads, “Hightower Quits USATF Post; New Chair’s Ties to Drug Cheat Noted,†the Times of San Diego reported this about Miller, in addition to his past life with Nike:
Miller is CEO of Agassi Graf Holdings, the Andre Agassi Foundation for Education, and BILT by Agassi and Reyes. ...Miller’s role in the Agassi camp concerned Bob Weiner, a Washington-based Democratic strategist who volunteers as a USATF masters track publicist.
“Agassi is a fun guy and a known tennis champion, but in his autobiography he admitted taking banned stimulant drugs during his Grand Slam tournaments and tennis knew and knows but did nothing about it,†Weiner said via email.
At the very highest echelon of track and field, we’ve got people on the Nike payroll, people who are going to do everything they can to prop up track’s sterling reputation, people who hang with drug cheats because they’re fun and probably throw good parties. What could go wrong?
U Asked For It wrote:
"The BBC showed these text messages to Jack Robertson, a former chief investigator for the World Anti-Doping Agency and the man who investigated the Shobukhova doping scandal.
"It appears that Coe is taking advice from someone who is at the centre of this scandal to extort athletes," said Robertson.
"It's wrong on so many fronts. It's not just disappointing, it's disgusting." "
Coe is a sickening sycophant.
Nonsense. All hearsay. Don't listen to British sensationalists - wait for the official statement from the IAAF president. There is no reason to suspect any foul play. Coe is the good guy, as proven by IAAF and WADA.
rekrunnr wrote:
U Asked For It wrote:"The BBC showed these text messages to Jack Robertson, a former chief investigator for the World Anti-Doping Agency and the man who investigated the Shobukhova doping scandal.
"It appears that Coe is taking advice from someone who is at the centre of this scandal to extort athletes," said Robertson.
"It's wrong on so many fronts. It's not just disappointing, it's disgusting." "
Coe is a sickening sycophant.
Nonsense. All hearsay. Don't listen to British sensationalists - wait for the official statement from the IAAF president. There is no reason to suspect any foul play. Coe is the good guy, as proven by IAAF and WADA.
Proven? Aren't you mister evidence? What has the IAAF done to prove he is a good guy?
For starters, they kicked out Papa's complete inner circle, and promoted the Lord. That is clear evidence!
Second, the impeccable Paula, now a high ranking IAAF official, repeatedly stood up for him. That is more evidence!
So in summary, before Coe became President, he 'played the game', so to speak, because he knew it was his only chance to get the top job. Had he not done that, someone else would have and we would be in the same position. I'm not going to stand up for him or claim what he was doing was ok, but I think it is only fair to judge him on what has been achieved since he won presidency, as before that what was going on was somewhat out of his hands.
larkimm wrote:
New documentary tonight. Looks from the news article damaging to Coe.
You sound surprised, as if Coe had any credibility left.
Speaking of credibility: have you seen this here, incl. the New York Times article?
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7385892Seb Coe states that he had no knowledge:
This is the most recent story I can find about the Stepanovs. I've seen no evidence that Seb Coe has ever met with them, and it appears they have not received any assistance for relocation or job retraining. Anybody have information to the contrary?
To summarise wrote:
I'm not going to stand up for him or claim what he was doing was ok, but I think it is only fair to judge him on what has been achieved since he won presidency, as before that what was going on was somewhat out of his hands.
"out of his hands"? I don't agree. Those were his decisions. Including lobbying for his employer Nike and lying about it.
And since he won presidency? Hmmm, off the top of my head: attacking Seppelt, attacking Ashenden, giving his British buddies various IAAF positions, making Hightower the Chair of Conflict Resolution, putting more corrupt people on the Ethics committee.
Anything positive?
The IAAF's official response:
http://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/panorama-bbc-statement-sebastian-coe
casual obsever wrote:
To summarise wrote:I'm not going to stand up for him or claim what he was doing was ok, but I think it is only fair to judge him on what has been achieved since he won presidency, as before that what was going on was somewhat out of his hands.
"out of his hands"? I don't agree. Those were his decisions. Including lobbying for his employer Nike and lying about it.
And since he won presidency? Hmmm, off the top of my head: attacking Seppelt, attacking Ashenden, giving his British buddies various IAAF positions, making Hightower the Chair of Conflict Resolution, putting more corrupt people on the Ethics committee.
Anything positive?
I never claimed it was all positive since he won, but getting Russian banned and forcing several other countries to get their act together is a step in the right direction, far more than Diack ever managed
USATF angle wrote:
Was Phil Knight (Nike) dictating to the USATF to vote for Coe, a Nike employee?
You thought the federation was an independent organization?
Is the broadcast accessible from the US?
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
USATF angle wrote:Was Phil Knight (Nike) dictating to the USATF to vote for Coe, a Nike employee?
You thought the federation was an independent organization?
Oh boy. What fun!!!
This is really going to get interesting for Lord Sebastian Coe of BRITAIN.
Nick Davies, the former chief of staff to IAAF President Lord Sebastian Coe (3:47.33 miler) is also the man who wrote the 'plan B' email to Papa Massata Diack regarding covering up Russian doping and using the Lausanne lab of Dr. Martial Saugy as a Plan B. The lab of Dr. Saugy is where the 67 Russian samples were destroyed, preventing any future analysis (plan B).
Nick Davies is also now accused of receiving 30,000 in unknown currency from Papa Massata Diack for "UK press lobbying and to assuage his wife Jane Boulter-Davies". His wife used to work in the ANTI-DOPING unit of the IAAF. She is accused of receiving, or having knowledge of the alleged payment to her husband in the year 2013. She now works as an administrator for the IAAF athletes' commission.
The vice chairman of the IAAF athletes' commission is PAULA RADCLIFFE. She has also trained in Flagstaff, Arizona.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jun/10/sebastian-coe-former-chief-of-staff-iaaf-nick-davies-supsended-bribe-russian-dopinghttp://www.iaaf.org/about-iaaf/structure/commissionsThat is just a coincidence.
There is also a connection to the NETHERLANDS.
Sifan Hassan is a citizen of the Netherlands and managed by Jos Hermens of the Netherlands. She also trains in Flagstaff, Arizona.
That is just a coincidence.
I will give you the connection in the future. Trust me.
The future is now:
That is just a coincidence.
Let's say for the sake of argument that Coe was using Davies as an intermediary (which he was) to get Papa Diack to help him win the Presidency. Davies could have handled the corruption without Coe knowing or could have been the fall guy for Coe. If Coe did not know that Davies was corrupt, he may simply have been trying to reform the IAAF by getting the presidency and knew he could do nothing without the presidency--which required the Diacks's support. He has been handling doping since his election but also de-emphasized it in the campaign to win, as per Papa Diack's advice. I'd like to think that he is clean of all this and had this intention all along to clean up the IAAF. But how credible can that possible be after he was Diack's right hand man and on the board all those years?