Agree - I was so excited that I wrote the exact same thread!
Agree - I was so excited that I wrote the exact same thread!
We now know how many findings there are from the 10 year re-analysis.
"Beginning in April 2015, using the latest technology available in the field of anti-doping and taking advantage of the new World Anti-Doping Codes provision extending from 8 to 10 years the periodduring which samples can be tested, the IAAF made a second reanalysis of Helsinki 2005 and Osaka 2007 samples. This reanalysis has confirmed a further 28 athletes with 32 adverse findings.
Due to the legal process, none of these athletescan be named yet.
A large majority of the 28 are retired, some are athletes who have already been sanctioned, and only very few remain active in sport. The IAAF is provisionally suspending them and can confirm that none of the athletes concerned will be competing in Beijing.
This strategy first revealed six adverse findings from Helsinki which were announced in March 2013 and to date 9 athletes have been sanctioned following re-testing of samplesfrom various world championships."
LOL,.... so much for the NOP defenders claiming the statute of limitations was enough to protect Salazar from pass misdoings. Such statutes are not built strong enough to protect cheaters. The statues rest on edge of soft-sided cliffs.
I hope they retest the samples from the 1984 Olympics..
If they have any samples from 2003 they should make it 12 years and retest them too - but it looks like they only started this long term storage program in 2005 sadly..
Webb is finally going to get his medal!
All week there had been rumors of a major drug bust that was coming and now it's out. The IAAF has gone back and used new technology to re-test samples stored since the 2005 and 2007 World Champs. They've nailed an amazing 28 people!!!The names aren't out yet as obviously the legal maneuverings are going to take forever when you are testing something that is 8-10 years old.The press release from the IAAF appears below.
The IAAF wrote:
LATEST SUCCESS OF IAAF RE-TESTING STRATEGY REVEALS 32 MORE ADVERSE FINDINGS FROM HELSINKI 2005 AND OSAKA 2007
The IAAF’s long-term storage and retesting strategy concerning IAAF Championships which began in 2005 with the storage of anti-doping samples from that year’s IAAF World Championships in Helsinki has led to disciplinary action being commenced against a further 28 athletes following a second reanalysis.
In 2012, the IAAF conducted a first round of re-analysis of urine samples taken at the Helsinki World Championships which had been proactively stored by the IAAF at the Swiss Laboratory for Doping Analyses (LAD), the WADA-accredited laboratory in Lausanne, in anticipation of new scientific developments. This strategy first revealed six adverse findings from Helsinki which were announced in March 2013 and to date 9 athletes have been sanctioned following re-testing of samples from various world championships.
Beginning in April 2015, using the latest technology available in the field of anti-doping and taking advantage of the new World Anti-Doping Code’s provision extending from 8 to 10 years the period during which samples can be tested, the IAAF made a second reanalysis of Helsinki 2005 and Osaka 2007 samples. This reanalysis has confirmed a further 28 athletes with 32 adverse findings.
Due to the legal process, none of these athletes can be named yet.
A large majority of the 28 are retired, some are athletes who have already been sanctioned, and only very few remain active in sport. The IAAF is provisionally suspending them and can confirm that none of the athletes concerned will be competing in Beijing.
The IAAF embarked on this long-term storage and retesting strategy in 2005 to ensure that clean athletes are ultimately rewarded for their honest efforts in IAAF competitions. The IAAF is committed to use every means at its disposal within the World Anti-Doping Code to root out the cheats, however long it takes.
Martial Saugy, Associate Professor, PhD, Life Sciences, and Director of LAD commented:
“The latest scientific breakthroughs in anti-doping technology and analysis have been employed in the reanalysis of these samples to allow us to find previously undetectable substances. We are at the cutting edge of the fight against doping. In our 10-year partnership with the IAAF we have been using every scientific advance and legal opportunity at our disposal to catch the cheats. The IAAF and the IOC, working in cooperation with the LAD, clearly showed the way 10 years ago and other anti-doping organisations and sport federations, on WADA’s recommendation, are now considering or have started implementing such a retesting policy.”
BRIEFING NOTES FOR EDITORS:
The IAAF has worked tirelessly with the WADA-accredited laboratory in Lausanne to ensure the accuracy and speed of this process. The IAAF has taken advantage of the 10-year period now offered under IAAF Rules and the World Anti-Doping Code as well as new analytical techniques which allow for example the long-term detection of steroids.
This successful re-analysis, which commenced well before the recent criticisms of the IAAF anti-doping programme, confirms once again the extent to which the IAAF is willing to go in order to target and discover those who wish to cheat in our sport.
Regrettably, the testing science available to the IAAF and the entire anti-doping community was not sufficient to detect these substances at the time in 2005 and 2007. The science progressed significantly in the following 10 years, and the IAAF has taken full advantage of the new techniques available. Ten years may seem like a long time to look backwards, but the IAAF has always strived to do whatever it can to protect clean athletes. If this means re-testing stored samples from previous events or out-of-competition testing, then the IAAF will do everything it takes to expose those who seek to cheat their fellow competitors.
The long-term storage and re-analysis of samples remain one of the best tools available to anti-doping organisations seeking to bridge the gap to athletes who make use of previously undetectable substances, or who have evaded detection through standard testing. The IAAF again urges other anti-doping organisations to follow this lead and re-analyse their stored samples.
The IAAF does not shy away from the fact that some athletes continue to cheat and defraud their fellow competitors. But we will do everything in our power, and use every tool available to protect those clean athletes who form the large majority of our sport.
Key points
• The re-analysis of these samples has been ongoing for some time, and was commenced well before the most recent allegations made against the IAAF by the ARD and The Sunday Times
• The findings reconfirm, yet again, the commitment of the IAAF to target and uncover all cheating in the sport, no matter how long it takes
• The re-analysis takes advantage of the increased statute of limitations (10 years) available under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code
• The IAAF was among the first and only sports to systematically store targeted tests for later re-analysis. It urges all other sports and anti-doping organisations to take a similar approach and re-analyse their stored samples – or in many cases actually begin to store samples for re-analysis
• As part of its anti-doping strategy, the IAAF also keeps for long-term storage and re-analysis purposes samples taken out-of-competition from athletes from its priority group.
• None of the athletes involved will be competing in Beijing
• The IAAF will not be discussing the nationalities, names, or details of any athlete who has tested positive during the disciplinary process
• Should Anti-Doping Rule Violations be confirmed against these athletes, the IAAF will correct the record books and re-allocate medals as necessary
• Each athlete involved has been formally notified of the results and their respective Member Federations are now responsible for organising a hearing before the relevant tribunal
IAAF
We'll try to right up an article about this as it's great news. The #1 way to limit PEDs is to raise the fear of getting caught and then the punishment if one is caught.
And Pre too!
In 1500m? Wow that would be more DQs than even the top 4 in the women's event and a double Ramzi!
Could Bekele be one of them? Won both 2005 and 2007 10,000m Gold and is not competing in this year's WC.
Probably just going to punish some eastern european throwers
On that note, Lysenko has had 1 ban, got a medal in 2005 and many post-ban, including London 2012 gold. Maybe Ryabinkina DQ would give Adams ANOTHER gold?
Ramzi in 2007 would give Kiprop an additional bronze medal. At least 2 more in the women's from being later caught will give Kibiwot a medal, one more who is suspicious would give a Namibian bronze in 4:07!
Nutella1 wrote:
Could Bekele be one of them? Won both 2005 and 2007 10,000m Gold and is not competing in this year's WC.
These are urine samples so it's unlikely to be an EPO positive.
wr potential wrote:
If they have any samples from 2003 they should make it 12 years and retest them too - but it looks like they only started this long term storage program in 2005 sadly..
WADA has a 10year statute of limitations on drugs. Does anyone know? I thought it used to be 8 years. If it was 8 years at the time, I wonder if these people will get off on a technicality- claiming you can't change the rules after the ract.
Cuban wrote:
Probably just going to punish some eastern european throwers
Haha. I wasn't the only one suspicous of what happened with the 2004 Olympic re-tests which was done by the IOC, not IAAF. A few throwers wer e thrown out and then the rest of the samples were thrown out. I always wanted to know how they decided which ones to retest and why they didn't re-test them all:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/06/sports/four-2004-olympians-stripped-of-medals-in-doping-re-test.html?_r=0"None of the athletes involved will be competing in Beijing"
Does this mean that any of the few athletes who are still active have been suspended? Or that none of these athletes were originally competing in Beijing?
HardLoper wrote:
Webb is finally going to get his medal!
Webb was 9th in 2005 and 8th in 2007 so he's gonna need some big time help. I do imagine we'll definitely have some DQs in the 1500s (men and women)
Here are the 1500 results from 2005. I would assume noted drug cheat Tomashova might end up being one of them.
Men:
August 10, 2005
Bahrain Rashid Ramzi 3:37.88
Morocco Adil Kaouch 3:38.00 (SB)
Portugal Rui Silva 3:38.02
Ukraine Ivan Heshko 3:38.71
Spain Arturo Casado 3:39.45
Spain Juan Carlos Higuero 3:40.34
Kenya Alex Kipchirchir 3:40.43
Algeria Tarek Boukensa 3:41.01
United States Alan Webb 3:41.04
Qatar Daham Najim Bashir 3:43.48
Spain Reyes Estévez 3:46.65
Morocco Yassine Bensghir 3:50.19
Women:
Russia Tatyana Tomashova 4:00.35 (SB)
Russia Olga Yegorova 4:01.46
France Bouchra Ghézielle 4:02.45
Russia Yelena Soboleva 4:02.48
Bahrain Maryam Yusuf Jamal 4:02.49
Spain Natalia Rodríguez 4:03.06 (SB)
Poland Anna Jakubczak 4:03.38 (SB)
Ethiopia Gelete Burka 4:04.77 (PB)
Canada Carmen Douma-Hussar 4:05.08
United Kingdom Helen Clitheroe 4:05.19 (SB)
Lithuania Irina Krakoviak 4:08.18
Yeah, they are detecting steroids after a long time since usage. I think the statute is only for testing - hence they wait till the end of the period to allow testing to catch up. If they extended it to 12 years tomorrow they could retest 2003 samples all of a sudden etc.
On that note, throwing out samples sounds like a heck of a scandal, like that recent Spanish cycling ruling where the doping lists were shelved. But the IOC is a moneygrab, hence the 'European Games' in Baku, and Beijing vs. Almaty for the Winter Olympics..
its going to be people like Tomashova and Yegerova who have already been banned.
Lagat.
Anyone else read this thread title and think that the hammer wasn't going to be competed at Worlds anymore at first?
But for real: how long will it take the IAAF to release the 28 names?
6 of the 28 athletes were still competing
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