Ivy running 02-03

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Annie Martin from Yale

Ok, here goes. I'll just discuss guys because honestly I'm too sure about the ladies. Also, looking at your post name being "Kenah" I'm you're more interested in 800/1500 than 10000. And before I start, I make mistakes just like everyone else so feel free to correct my statements.

Brown

Brown certainly came out of last year with not much around. Tarpy looks like he has improved quite a bit with his performance at XC. Enda Johnson and Brendan O'Keefe look like they will be significant players in the mid-distance. This assumes Johnson is healthy -- in 2001 he and Peter Hollatz went 1-2 at outdoor Heps.

Columbia

Columbia seems to be the "hot play" right now but they really don't the depth to make a run at scoring high on the track. I think Sundell and Garvie are very talented, and at the mid-distance Galgano is defending indoor champ and Moncur will certainly be in the mix. I guess it depends on what events they concentrate on.

Cornell

I'm sure RoJo has much to say on this subject, but Cornell looks like they may be rebuilding a little. Bruce Hyde and Dan Dombroski are certainly consistent players but probably not top scorers. Wild card is Geoff Van Fleet, who is returning from a severe injury and is capable of shaking things up in the 1500. Max King has graduated.

Dartmouth

McArdle has not lost at Heps in a while, and that streak will continue. He won the 3000 and 5000 last year indoors and I'm not sure anyone will be able to touch him except for teammate Shoemaker. Bryce LaPierre scored in the 10K last year and will probably do so again. In the mid-distance, Taylor has graduated and I don't see much there.

Harvard

The two big guns, Seidel and Shenk-Boright, are major warhorses and scored in both the 5000 and 10000 last year outdoors. Looks like Seidel is ready to go again in cross. However, Alasdair McLean-Foreman will definitely vie for, if not win the mile indoors. He won the 800 as a freshman (beating Burley who was running on a stress fracture) and I think is going to stick with the mile as a primary event.

Navy

Navy is one big mystery. I thought they would do much better in XC - - - and I'm not going to speculate here. This was a team that creamed the Ivies 1991-1993 but has dropped off a little the last two years. Aaron Lanzel is obviously they're top guy.

Penn

Penn is on thin ice but they may score well with what they have. Sam Burley has seemed to cross into the "national-class" zone which means forget it if you want to beat him head to head. He may pull a Robin Martin and try a 500-1000 double indoors (which Robin did and won both). They had freshman score in many events indoors last year and both Dusty Lieb and Nolan Tully looked good in XC. Lieb beat Sundell at nationals, I believe.

Princeton

There should be no changes at "the factory" down at Old Nassau. Ryan Smith graduated but who cares it looks like Hulick-Zysik-Dean you name it can fill his shoes and Bell and Kieliszak will also compete well. Princeton owns the indoor relays because of their superior depth. If Teising returns, he and Colangelo could rack up big points in the distances too. Colangelo is solid and may contend with McArdle in the 3000.

Yale

Yale continues to dwell at the bottom of the league, and this years's XC kind of reflected that. Lucas Meyer seems to be their only legit scoring distance runner right now.

as for relays like I said it will be a heavy dose of Princeton with other schools targeting single relay events to score high in.

Princeton indoors again, and MAYBE Penn can pull it off and win outdoors. Will be close.

phew !

[quote]BillCarr wrote:

" I'll just discuss guys because honestly I'm too sure about the ladies. Also, looking at your post name being "Kenah" I'm you're more interested in 800/1500 than 10000."

I meant "I'm NOT too sure about the ladies" and "I'm ASSUMING you're more interested."

does anyone know what happened to Ryan Teising of Princeton? He was running with Congelo freshman and sophmore year

what is going on with columbia? their guys and girls seem to be running very well. does anybody know about their training?

curious wrote:

what is going on with columbia? their guys and girls seem to be running very well. does anybody know about their training?

We have pretty good coaching... We make an emphasis on strength work and it seems to pay off.

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BillCarr wrote:

Harvard

The two big guns, Seidel and Shenk-Boright, are major warhorses and scored in both the 5000 and 10000 last year outdoors. Looks like Seidel is ready to go again in cross. However, Alasdair McLean-Foreman will definitely vie for, if not win the mile indoors. He won the 800 as a freshman (beating Burley who was running on a stress fracture) and I think is going to stick with the mile as a primary event.

McLean-Foreman is taking this year off, so he won't be around indoors or out.

Shenk-Boright spent XC coming back from a long injury layoff. We'll see what happens in indoors.

What about any incoming Freshmen? Who could make a difference? Ivy Rookie Honours?

I only know distance, but David Burnham from Dartmouth is pretty good. Columbia had a very good freshman too, forget his name though.

Raw-Dawg Teising has hit a bit of an injury block this year, but he'll be busting it up in the near future. He is just a disgruntled old man who takes forever to get his lazy butt into shape.

Princeton sucks!

Mike_McCready wrote:

I only know distance, but David Burnham from Dartmouth is pretty good. Columbia had a very good freshman too, forget his name though.

Anthony Mion of Columbia was the top freshman finisher at Heps (In the top 20, I believe).

George McArdle is looking to drop a fast deuce this weekend at the Relays. Watch for him sprinting for the donuts on that last lap.

What about Tom Galebach? Isn\'t he one of Yale\'s finest freshman? I saw him run some kind of 4xmile race thing as a workout and he went pretty fast for a skinny little guy! Does anyone know anything about his times?

Anybody have anything interesting to say about the upcoming Navy/Princeton meet? Any predictions there?

Does anyone know if enigmatic navy sophmore Brandon Woods will be competing? I know he has a 4:12.6 1600m PR...and would be a logical contributor to Navy's team effort.

Mike_McCready wrote:

I only know distance, but David Burnham from Dartmouth is pretty good. Columbia had a very good freshman too, forget his name though.

I also have heard that Tim Galebach is tearing things up for Harvard, after taking a year off. I believe the post about him running for Yale is quite mistaken.