im thinking about track and field events i really want to do. im not that really good at sprints my times are 15s for the 100m, 36s for the 200m and 88s for the 400m.
i do want to get faster. thats one of the main reasons why i am in track.
but what about the jumping events in track and field. will my speed make me suck at long jump and triple jump.
i heard in sprints that to be good at it u have to be born fast.
but what about jumps. can a person who sucks at jumping get very good at it.
Lack of speed hurts in the jumps. More so in the long jump. A white guy holds the triple jump WR, so speed isn't as important there (technique matters more).
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A 7th grade gal with those PRs and a male HS senior with the same numbers get different answers.
Physics matters...
Wasn't Jon Edwards at least sub 10.5?
Side question I've been wondering about: how significant is correlation between basic speed and HIGH jump?
As a former jumper, the answer is no, you don't HAVE to be fast, but it helps. Jumping talent, or "spring" is not directly related to speed. Technique is everything, but you will be limited by speed. About the best you can hope for is to place in some dual meets between local schools. But don't expect to be state level material.
The distance of your jump is dependent on your speed and angle of jump.
Yes, JE was a good sprinter.Many world-class hj'ers have respectable sprint speed.Maximizing force through the curve, and ultimately at takeoff, will usually lead to higher jumping results. The angle of takeoff is also a major determining factor.
Flo'da boy wrote:
Wasn't Jon Edwards at least sub 10.5?
Side question I've been wondering about: how significant is correlation between basic speed and HIGH jump?
Long Jump correlates about 90% with 100m performance.
Christian Taylor (TJ) has run 20.7 and 400 meters faster than Usain Bolt. This is not where you want to look if you can only run 15.
Best male long jumper of all time was Carl Lewis. Enough said.
You can have the best technique in the world but without the speed you will never be a successful horizontal jumper fact!
Long jump more so than triple. You'll see a lot of college running backs do long jump because speed is a crucial element in long jump. Look at Carl Lewis, Mike Powell, Dwight Phillips all could run 100m as a pro as they were all 10secs below for 100m. The only amazing long jumper who wasn't extremely fast was Ivan Pedroso and that was because he had the greatest technique and spring in long jump history and he probably can run under 10.6 for 100m.
With triple jump however speed is still important but the most important element is how well you can maintain your speed throughout each phase so the best triple jumpers are the ones who spend the less time on the ground but have an active landing leg to maintain momentum through the 3 phases. The world record holder johnathon Edwards wasn't the strongest triple jumper but what he had was amazing technique and speed (10.2 for 100m) and he never lost much his speed in any of the phases. But In triple jump as its more technical I would say you still need to improve your speed but successful triple jumpers can be good with around 10.5 speed (will claye, phillips idowu, teddy tamgho).
But If your not that fast then I would say you have to have ridiculously good explosive leg power to be good at these to events, even if your not to good at these events just do it for the fun as in my opinion triple jump is the best event in track and field as it you need speed, power, technique, balance and flexibility to be a success.
[quote]well.. wrote:
Best male long jumper of all time was Carl Lewis. Enough said. [quote]
wrong. Lewis was a caught doper...everything he's done is an asterisk.
I think this guy has said everything that needs to be said.
Exception to speed rule.
Watch Inessa Kravets' Goteborg WR of 50'10", and you see technique and unreal spring on second phase.
What is A. Menkov's sprint speed as he's clearly the best long jumper in the world right now? Seems like he's just got a lot of "bounce"
wondererer wrote:
What is A. Menkov's sprint speed as he's clearly the best long jumper in the world right now? Seems like he's just got a lot of "bounce"
The thing about Menkov is that he's deceiving. The way he runs on the runway is completely different to how he would run in a 100m race. That being said your true he isn't rapid like a 10.2 below for 100m but i would say around the 10.4/5 mark.
If you look at his last 3-4 strides on the runway you see he really ups his pace and what matter in long jump is the speed you hit the board not the other 15strides before.
But yeah he has unreal bounce kind of like the long Irving Saladino.
Edwards was regularly measured at well over 11 meters per second at the board triple jumping, that would indicate mid 10 second 100m speed or so.