Now that winter is drawing near (northern hemisphere), I see the global warming chatter has died down (right on cue).

Cool.

the proper terminology is "climate change". get with it.

yamaha wrote:As is usually the case.

Didn't you data deniers learn anything from the election?

Not really, no. The science is continuing along as it always has. The loud-mouths who don't actually know anything have probably stopped talking, but no one should be taking them seriously in the first place.

Unless the winter is very, very cold, 2012 will be the warmest year in history.

DontFeedTheTroll wrote:

Unless the winter is very, very cold, 2012 will be the warmest year in history.

Warmer than during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum?

DontFeedTheTroll wrote:

Unless the winter is very, very cold, 2012 will be the warmest year in history.

Only if history started in 1850.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

DontFeedTheTroll wrote:

Unless the winter is very, very cold, 2012 will be the warmest year in history.

Warmer than during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum?

History typically refers to the period of time from the advent of human civilization (or sometimes, human written records) to the present. Hence the use of the term, 'prehistoric', to refer to the days of cave men and further back in time.

Are you suggesting that the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum took place within the last 10,000 years? Or perhaps you believe that humans were around 55 million years ago?

"Or perhaps you believe that humans were around 55 million years ago?"

Of course not. The Earth is only 6,000 years old.

yamaha wrote:

As is usually the case.

Usually the case? I don't know about that. I have noticed the opposite around here.

Warm winter? Blame global warming.

Cold winter? Blame global warming.

Hot summer? Blame global warming.

Mild summer? Blame global warming

Violent storms? Blame global warming.

Normal weather? Blame global warming.

Ah dangit I forgot. Change "global warming" to "climate change" in all above references and you will have the most up to date talking points for your Thanksgiving gathering.

Mr. More Obvious wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Warmer than during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum?

History typically refers to the period of time from the advent of human civilization (or sometimes, human written records) to the present. Hence the use of the term, 'prehistoric', to refer to the days of cave men and further back in time.

Are you suggesting that the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum took place within the last 10,000 years? Or perhaps you believe that humans were around 55 million years ago?

that is one use of the word "history". Generally when talking about geological events we should view them within the context of the geological timescale which didn't start 10000 years ago.

What is this 10000 years nonsense? THE EARTH IS ONLY 6000 YEARS OLD.

I see you people still cannot distinguish weather and climate.

Nice meme.

yamaha wrote:

As is usually the case.

Maybe among people who aren't much into that "reading" thing.

Boulder scientists: Climate models predicting greater warming appear more accurate

By Joe Rubino Camera Staff Writer

Two Boulder scientists have published an analysis of leading climate models that indicates those predicting a greater rise in global temperatures are likely to be more accurate than those showing a lesser increase.

National Center for Atmospheric Research scientists John Fasullo and Kevin Trenberth analyzed the accuracy of sophisticated climate models to measure relative humidity in the tropics and subtropics. The study appears in this week's issue of Science.

I know you're just trolling and in a most primitive way at that, but the linked article is worth checking out if you genuinely care. NCAR is more or less ground zero for climate-change research worlwide. (And by the way, Joe Rubino is not to be confused with Joe Rubio.)

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Warmer than during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum?

It's comforting to know that the climate in 2012 wasn't nearly as brutal as it was during the last global mass extinction event.

Here's wishing everyone an asteroid-free 2013.

"the linked article is worth checking out if you genuinely care."

No, thank you.

yamaha wrote:

"the linked article is worth checking out if you genuinely care."

No, thank you.

Yeah, it would involve that reading thing. Phhhtt!

No need to talk about it, now that the Hurricane Sandy has convinced everyone that climate change is real and getting worse.

Big John wrote:

Usually the case? I don't know about that. I have noticed the opposite around here.

Warm winter? Blame global warming.

Cold winter? Blame global warming.

Hot summer? Blame global warming.

Mild summer? Blame global warming

Violent storms? Blame global warming.

Normal weather? Blame global warming.

Ah dangit I forgot. Change "global warming" to "climate change" in all above references and you will have the most up to date talking points for your Thanksgiving gathering.

If you're going to resort to using strawman "arguments," at least try to be less of an idiot about it, not that AGW deniers have much choice.

Caligula's friend wrote:

No need to talk about it, now that the Hurricane Sandy has convinced everyone that climate change is real and getting worse.

See above. You won't see scientists claiming that Sandy or any single weather event is uniquely the result of AGW. See, there are PATTERNS and TRENDS and then there are EVENTS. Get the difference? Nope, but who cares? Facts exist independent of the fools who deny them.