http://www.theblaze.com/stories/should-indiana-senior-have-been-expelled-for-f-bomb-tweet/
What do you think? Hard justice?
What do you think? Hard justice?
It was posted at 2:30am. C'mon the kid wasn't at school. You can't restrict his free speech when it's his own private time, especially with a word that has become more and more commonly used in everyday speech. The people who suspended him should try stepping out of their offices and taking a walk down the hallway. Maybe that way they'd engage with real, living, breathing students and realize that this is just how kids talk.
Yeah schools are soo hard up for cash all these students have school issued laptops and the money to pay someone to spy on them. Fukc off and die.
If he posted it on a school-owned computer, the punishment is legit (albeit a bit extreme, no?). It should probably be handled like someone dropping the F-Bomb via their mouth during school. Not sure how this is different. Do you expel people for cursing at school?
Anyway, otherwise, they are way out of line. Can you be expelled for shouting the F-Bomb outside of school? No. How is this any different?
We're going to continue to see this type of thing from people who do not understand Social Media. This is no different than the guy who had HR ask for his passwords. A total misunderstanding of the platforms. Media brought attention to that and it was quickly made to look ridiculous and absurd.
The same will happen here, UNLESS it was a school issued piece of equipment. In that case, the school can punish him... but expulsion?
Nathan Arizona wrote:
It was posted at 2:30am. C'mon the kid wasn't at school.
The issue isn't whether or not he was at school, but whether or not he was using a school computer. If he was using his school issued laptop, they can punish him.
That being said, the punishment is ridiculous. Expulsion for swearing?
Hi there. I'm the Indiana student who was expelled. I troll this board quite a bit, and I saw my story. It was unfair to expel me, but really, I'm not missing out on anything. I'm not very intelligent and usually spew expletives just to pass time.
if schools expel all students who curse in school or in the students private time, the schools would be like ghost towns, schools that currently have 1-3k would have 10-20 kids.
The reality is that those 10-20 kids are probably the only ones worth educating.
When I was young, like YOUNG...between 4th and 5th grade...I told a dirty joke on summer break (the punchline was "your rubber ducky spit on me so I bit it"). During he following school year one of my classmates who I had told the joke to during summer repeated it. When he got busted he told the teacher I had told him the joke. Didn't matter that it was 6 months beforehand in my yard, I got the suspension. Goddamn nuns.
I-man wrote:
Hi there. I'm the Indiana student who was expelled. I troll this board quite a bit, and I saw my story. It was unfair to expel me, but really, I'm not missing out on anything. I'm not very intelligent and usually spew expletives just to pass time.
You need to find a better use of your spare time.
Seems like this should be an open and shut case in favor of the kid. There's no evidence that his tweet caused a disruption at the school, and that's really the only grounds they would have to punish him for exercising a First Amendment right.
5445 wrote:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/should-indiana-senior-have-been-expelled-for-f-bomb-tweet/What do you think? Hard justice?
Not justice at all. While he used more F words in that little post than I have in my entire life (I'm not one to swear), he wasn't malicious in any way and in fact was making a keen observation. Man if one of my kids did that and got expelled, I would be mad at them, but then I'd sue that school. That's a crazy thing to expel a kid over.
The kid in 30 years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWRxPDhd3d0
Old Gregg wrote:
Seems like this should be an open and shut case in favor of the kid. There's no evidence that his tweet caused a disruption at the school, and that's really the only grounds they would have to punish him for exercising a First Amendment right.
Why are there so many people who just don't understand the rights the 1st Amendment gives us?
Here's a test. Stop what you are doing, walk over to the HR office and tell your HR manager to eff off. Then see how far the 1st Amendment gets you.
atownrunnin wrote:
Here's a test. Stop what you are doing, walk over to the HR office and tell your HR manager to eff off. Then see how far the 1st Amendment gets you.
My manager is not the government. The school is.
school is government wrote:
My manager is not the government. The school is.
Nope. You do not have unfettered 1st Am. rights in school.
atownrunnin wrote:
Why are there so many people who just don't understand the rights the 1st Amendment gives us?
Here's a test. Stop what you are doing, walk over to the HR office and tell your HR manager to eff off. Then see how far the 1st Amendment gets you.
Did you even read the article? The thing the kid said was a general observation made from his own home. How is that comparable in any way to someone cursing at a coworker while at work??
random a hole wrote:
Nope. You do not have unfettered 1st Am. rights in school.
No sh*t, which is why I said that the school might be justified in punishing him for his speech if it caused a disturbance in the school.
the BRObius strip wrote:
Did you even read the article? The thing the kid said was a general observation made from his own home. How is that comparable in any way to someone cursing at a coworker while at work??
Did you read the article? The school's contention is that the tweet was made using their laptop computer.