I was reading about the selection process for the world champ marathon. What is the time they have to run(2:12 or 2:14:50) to get in? If Khalid is running London, he's not going to run worlds? I hope at the trials he tells everyone he is going to pace 2:11 for 22+ miles and everyone can hold on. There is no reason for him to run 2:07 or 2:08.
Uh, there is no trials race for the WC marathon team.
Duh.
Jayson knows that. Just yesterday the WC's selection process was announced for the marathon.
From Running USA Wire 106, November 13, 2002
2003 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS MARATHON TEAM SELECTION PROCEDURES ANNOUNCED
INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. - (November 13, 2002) - The Men's and Women's Long
Distance Running Committees of USA Track & Field announced today the
selection procedure for the U.S. marathon teams for the 2003 World
Championships in Paris, France.
FOR U.S. MEN
1) The top three finishers at the 2003 USA Marathon Championship hosted by
the Mercedes Marathon in Birmingham, Alabama on February 8 will receive
automatic spots.
2) The top finisher from the 2002 USA Marathon Championship (Twin Cities)
also will receive an automatic berth: Dan Browne.
3) The fifth spot on the USA men's marathon team - and any berths declined
by
automatically qualified runners - will be selected, based on rank order,
from
the top times run by American men on certified courses from January 1, 2002
through April 21, 2003.
FOR U.S. WOMEN
1) From the 2002 USA Marathon Championship (Twin Cities), the national
champion (Jill Gaitenby) has an automatic berth on the team and an
additional
spot is available for the next top finisher under 2:40:00 who accepts a
berth
on the team.
2) From the 2003 USA Marathon Championship hosted by St. Louis on April 5,
the national champion receives an automatic berth and an additional spot is
available for the next top finisher under 2:40:00 who accepts a berth on the
team.
3) As needed, the remaining team member(s) to complete the five-member team
will be based on rank order of marathon performances on certified courses
from January 1, 2002 through the 2003 USA Marathon Championship on April 5,
2003.
Paris hosts the 2003 World Championships from August 23-31. The Men's
Marathon will be contested on Saturday, August 30 (2:20pm start) and the
Women's Marathon on Sunday, August 31 (2:20pm start).
Hard to say if KK is going to do the WC's....he'll have no trouble making the team based upon #4 in the selection process.
Whoops!
Nice typo. Sorry...based upon NUMBER THREE, he should have no trouble making the team.
Sorry!
And yes, when the Trials comes around, it will be interesting to see how it all plays out...but have to wait awhile for that. Also will be interesting to see what Meb, Alan, maybe Abdi, Bob Kennedy, etc. decide to do over a year down the road...
On the USATF website they have listed qualifying standards for worlds.
It says for the world championship meet the
A Standard Men 2:12 Women 2:32
B Standard Men 2:14:50 Women 2:36
What do these standards represent? Are they going to be ignored for the world championship meet and only going to be used for the Olympics?
How do these morons figure out these dates? Feb 8 is fine for the men, but why wait until April for the women? How stupid is that?
The third selection criteria was so obviously designed for KK it ain't funny! If he runs London will he be able to come back in time for another marathon in Paris in August??? the course should suit him if they use the Paris Marathon course...more of a time trialler course than a championship/Olympic type course.
Or will we see a repeat of the Edmonton fiasco when he bit off more than he could chew?
St. Louis is hosting the 2004 Women's USOT as well. In April. Why? That's when they run a general amarthion. And check the typical Feb & April weather in St. Louis before you decide which would be better for marathon running. And if anyone's thinking about asking "Why was St. Louis chosen at all?", don't ask me. The explanation -- a good, logical, and REAL one -- would be too long for me to want to go into, and would probably be foreign to anyone who'd ask.
There are no qualifying times for the World Championship Marathon. USATF I believe originally published the Olympic qualifying times as also being World Champs times as well but later stated there were none. Of course it is because the WC Marathon doubles as World Cup. Each country can run five. KK has supposedly said he will not go to WC. Dan Browne will most likely try to make the team in the 10000m and even if he doesn't may not run the marathon at WC. Who knows who will run, or be top three, at Birmingham '03. 2:18 could make the team there along with the top Chicago finishers. There is no incentive to go to Paris, where they will run the marathon in the afternoon in late August, other than just making a team. Combine that with the paltry prize money at the US Champs and you have a weaker even than usual team for Paris '03.
If the B standard for women is 2:36, then how can the winner of the National Women's Marathon be going to World's as an automatic selection. She ran slower than 2:36.
You're wrong, dude. Jayson obviously would have no reason to say, "If Khalid is running London, he's not going to run worlds? I hope at the trials he tells everyone he is going to pace 2:11 for 22+ miles and everyone can hold on. There is no reason for him to run 2:07 or 2:08" if he knew that. Read a little more carefully before you act like you know something.
brettnsuzy wrote:
Duh.
Jayson knows that.
Two seperate thoughts.
Yes, Jayson well know what he was saying.
Yes, I am a MENSA member as well.