Which racing flat would be better for short road races? XC Streak2 (5.6oz) or Mizuno Wave Universe 3 (3.6oz)?

wave universe 3 look awesome, curious to hear from others who've tried 'em

i have the wave universe 3 and i feel like im running barefoot, it feels like nothing is weighing me down. I wouldn't wear them if the terrain is rocky though, you can feel the rocks in your feet and it will be very uncomfortable. i would only wear them for races up to the 10k.

How would they be for road races of pure asphalt though?

I went down a half size in the Universe. The Universe fits wider than the Streak XC or Streak XC2. I would try it on before you buy it due to the different fit. As the previous poster said, it is much more minimal than the Streak XC. Whichever fits your foot better is what I would choose.

Thanks for your help. i am about a D width in most shoes if that helps. i have some streak XC and they fit fine, maybe a bit narrow but nothing that bothers me

There is no way the wave universe 3 is 3.6 ounces. That is far lighter than nearly any spike on the market, save for the Victory and perhaps the Matumbo.

The wave universe 3 is 4.5 ounces for my size 13. They really do feel like your running barefoot, and i haven't quite gotten use to them yet. I think you are confusing the Streak XC 2 with the original but either way I like both better since I like my foot feeling secure in a shoe.

what do you mean by you like both better? Which one of the both do you like better? :)

wave universe arent spikes as you know. some people have tried them and liked them so much they started using them in track races too

Tried both, XC Streak 2 is more comfortable and durable.

The Wave is a nice shoe for the road but a pain in the ass if you are running rocky trails and breaks down quickly.

bumpz

The wave universe was meant for short road races. They are very very light. I also use them for track workouts but they seem to slip a little. what other info do you need?

I meant i like the streak xc 2 and the original streak better than the wave universe 3.

gfdgfs wrote:

There is no way the wave universe 3 is 3.6 ounces. That is far lighter than nearly any spike on the market, save for the Victory and perhaps the Matumbo.

Uh, yes the are (in size 9). I ordered a pair and weighed my size 11 and they were ~4 oz IIRC.

They were so amazing, when I got the box it felt empty. I had to show my neighbors (also runners), they feel like nothing.

I eventually returned them because they were too minimal and I wanted a daily training flat, I wouldn't wear these for anything longer than a 5K or 10K. And they wouldn't hold up to daily wear (I ended up with AdiZeros Rockets for daily use).

yoyoyomama wrote:

The wave universe was meant for short road races. They are very very light. I also use them for track workouts but they seem to slip a little. what other info do you need?

so the bottom line is - if you're using the Wave Universe 3 for 5k 100%-asphalt races (dont care about daily training/tempos or rocky terrain), are they better than the Nike Streak XC 2 for this sole purpose?

Thanks

Yep.

I use the xc streak2 for roads even though they are more XC. Ritz used them for a half M

not sure about wave universe 3