According to Simon Bairu's twitter.
According to Simon Bairu's twitter.
i knew he shared mgmt with them in kimbia. i assume he has signed with nike as well. nice work bumby!
More 5k depth to the best stable in the U.S. Hopefully we'll see a low 13 minute performance from him next season.
precisely wrote:
More 5k depth to the best stable in the U.S. Hopefully we'll see a low 13 minute performance from him next season.
Is his PR 13:30? Let's give the kid some time to develop before we start predicting "low 13s"... I'm thinking the strength based training that Jerry's group does is going to take a couple of years to really start reaping rewards.
I realize that a few of the Americans are making it look easy (well ok, Solinsky is), but low 13s takes years to get to from 13:30.
He ran 13:30 2 years ago. This year, with the bout with mono or whatever, all he had time to do was get a 13:40ish qualifier for NCAAs and USATF, and neither of those races went really fast.
Maybe between 13:10 and 13:20 next year would be reasonable. Make him a contender for the Daeugu team if one of the top dogs is hurt or has an off day.
what is the daeugu team?
World Champs location next year...
Can somebody tell me who is in Al Sal's group and who is with Schumacher?
Are both of these groups under the OTC umbrella?
Francis L wrote:
I realize that a few of the Americans are making it look easy (well ok, Solinsky is), but low 13s takes years to get to from 13:30.
Solinsky doesn't make it look THAT easy. All right, he looks amazing now, but he spent three years with a PR of 13:12 before hitting 26:59. Here's his progression from IAAF.org:
2010 12:55.53
2009 13:18.41
2008 13:18.51
2007 13:12.24
2006 13:27.94
2005 13:37.55
He graduated in December 2007. I'm pretty sure he went pro in the summer of 2007 after his eligibility was used up, and then ran his 13:12.
...so my point is, Solinsky didn't just magically go sub-13. It took years of progression, even if that didn't necessarily show up in championship years like 2008 and 2009 where the goal was the Olympics and WC's.
Here's Bumbalough's progression:
2006: 14:10
2007: 13:55
2008: 13:41
2009: 13:30
2010: 13:46
With the exception of this year, he's cut 10-15 seconds a year. Training with this group can only help.
Maybe between 13:10 and 13:20 next year would be reasonable. Make him a contender for the Daeugu team if one of the top dogs is hurt or has an off day.[/quote]
It's going to be a very long shot for anyone not named Lagat, Solinsky, or Tegenkamp. 26 Americans have run sub 13:30 in the last 3 years. Obviously a few of them like Ritz, Rupp, and Huling won't be competing in the 5K, but it is potentially a very crowded field for at most 1 or 2 spots. Then or course there is the matter of the A Standard.
I apologize in advance if anyone is left off.
Time, Runner(pb), Year
12:54.12, Bernard Lagat, 2010
12:55.53, Chris Solinsky, 2010
12:56.27, Dathan Ritzenhein, 2009
12:58.56, Matt Tegenkamp, 2009
13:07.35, Galen Rupp, 2010
13:17.98, Anthony Famiglietti, 2009
13:18.46, Brent Vaughn, 2008
13:18.97, Robert Curtis, 2010
13:20.25, Ed Moran, 2010
13:20.33, Tim Nelson, 2010
13:21.65, Jonathan Riley, 2009
13:22.18, Evan Jager, 2009
13:23.79, Abdihakem Abdirahman, 2008
13:24.00, Bolota Asmerom, 2009
13:24.72, Dan Huling, 2010
13:25.46, German Fernandez, 2009
13:27.17, Sean Quigley, 2009
13:27.45, Thomas Morgan, 2008
13:27.79, Brendon Bethke, 2009
13:28.45, Hassan Mead, 2009
13:28.92, Scott Bauhs, 2009
13:29.16, Brian Medigovich, 2010
13:29.75, Elliott Heath, 2010
13:29.76, Ian Dobson, 2008
13:29.93, Louis Luchini, 2008
13:29.98, Chris Derrick, 2009
Before anyone calls me out. These are pbs in the last 3 years only.
deaugu?? wrote:
what is the daeugu team?
Daegu (korea) is hosting 2011 world champs.
Ian Dobson has run 13:15, although I'm not positive when it was. Or how helpful this comment is.
My point was that there is potentially a big crowd of runners in the 13:18 - 13:30 range. After Rupp there is a huge drop off right now. It will be fascinating to see who will be the next to separate themselves from the chase pack and move into the upper tier.
Seriously, why didn't they pick up Bobby Curtis? He was an NCAA champ, 3rd in cross, and I believe he's recently run 13:18.
If he recovers in time, Jager probably has the best chance of making it among the 'will run 5000, not 10,000/marathon' group. His PR of 13:22 made the last WC team and he will be two years older although the injury time will not help the progression.
the best part about Bumbalough is that he can bust a solid 1500 as well. So once he gets in some Schumacher training, he can be a threat in a slow championship 5k.
26mi235 wrote:
If he recovers in time, Jager probably has the best chance of making it among the 'will run 5000, not 10,000/marathon' group. His PR of 13:22 made the last WC team and he will be two years older although the injury time will not help the progression.
I'm not sure what you're saying here... are you placing him as the best of the also-rans? Because Lagat and Teg are definitely 5000 material, and probably Solinsky too. No idea why you'd place him above them.