Heard a rumor that Warhurst is retiring. Is there any truth to this?
Heard a rumor that Warhurst is retiring. Is there any truth to this?
also heard this from a good solid person. not sure about the retirement though, may be a forced out. hard to tell in these situations. The Georgia AD who just got caught DUI "officially" resigned although he would have been tossed out the door soon. Probably will never know about these things.
he already stepped down as head coach a few years back because he didnt want all the responsibility. He's old; it wouldn't surprise me if he decided to hang it up.
I wonder if he decided to step down from collegiate coaching to focus on his post collegiate guys. Seems like a smart thing to do considering what he's already accomplished at Michigan and given his age. Might be a good time to focus on something else for awhile.
Hey the old 65 is the new 50. What are you talking about "old". Ron is in his prime! One no so good year doesn't make him over the hill....
Dudes, I'm pretty sure Warhurst is staying untill his son is of age to compete, then hes callin it quits. Which means hes got some time.
I heard that the Hansons are trying to hire Ronnie to start a middle distance crew.
I hope it happens but I doubt it.
I heard he is moving to the UP with Tim Broe for a life time of fishing and fun.
Timmy is in New Hampshire with his own post collegiate group.
Of course Ron didn't resign. The real BS is that Laplante sold him down the river (along with Kiser) and the AD doesn't care how good Warhurst USED to be. The distance area has grossly underperformed that last 5 years and the track team is the worst in the last 10 years. Maybe Mort returns to his former school? Maybe Warhurst take vacancy at Easternn Michigan and tries to beat blue.
I actually think Sully, Brannen, and Willis ruined Ron as a coach because he tried to train athletes after him just as hard and those runners were supertalented and could stay healthy. However, as much as I think Warhurst did a bad job coaching a bunch of very talented runners, he is one of the greatest personalities in collegiate track. I agree above that if it is true, can't believe Freddie fired Ron, but they may have been cleaning house and he was trying to survive.
Ron just coached the Silver medalist in the 1500 at last Olympics, how did he do a bad job of coaching very talented guys? Brannen advanced to a World's semis.
Only Gold would do?
In fact Ron is the Only guy coaching in college that has coached ANY medalists,I believe in events 800 and above Willis and Diemer.
15 sub 4 minute milers
CR in 4 x mile and DMR , and triple winners at Penn, yup really bad job of coaching those really good guys.
People have a skewed view of the world, in that, if you had really good guys , you were just lucky.
Then they get no credit for the next level competitive improvements either.
Ever think the reason the good guys were there, was BECAUSE of the coach?
Unfortunately U of M is not spending their money on a track coach to have athletes do well post collegiately.
THey want and deserve results at the BIG 10 champs and NCAA Champs...THat is what college coaches get paid to do.
IT is the same with a basketball coach who goes undeafeted in the the pre big 10 schedule and then sucks during the big 10 season...and does not make the ncaa tournament....that is what the Mich Men distance have done over the past few years....run well early, and get worse as the season goes on and pretty much non existant once Big 10 ten champs/ NCAA Champs come along...Lex WIlliams is a great example this past year....looked strong early, and was no where to be seen when big 10 champs unfold???
If a coach can manage both sides then great( college and pro), but it is very hard...and when the paycheck is coming from the university the coach might want to spend a lot more time making sure they have a good final product on the track come college championship season!!!
IT will be interesting to see how this unfolds....IT seems that many more new/ younger AD's are looking for more accountability out of track programs...
THere are less and less good ole boy coaches just floating through the year with one good athlete....now with that said there are still many average college coaches beating the system...
and yes Ronnie is a great guy so it is unfortunate this has come to this...
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and yes Ronnie is a great guy so it is unfortunate this has come to this...
Are you really accepting this as a foregone conclusion? WTF?! This forum is the National Enquirer of the running world. That's really messed up if people accept everything they read on here as the truth. As far as you know, someone is just stirring up shit.
Fair enough on some of that, but Ron does not spend a disproportionate amount of time with his post collegians at all.
In fact Brannen is not even local anymore at all. Willis is usually gone quite a bit.
It is funny how this rolls to me.
UM was 4th in DMR at Penn, with two frosh legs and Third in 4 x mile with a former 9:20's HS guy and two frosh.
You are right about one thing, UM does not value that. like a Villanova.
It is funny that when you are kicking everyone's, and that would be everyone's asses, you just had GREAT talent, when you place well at Penn with no sure fire stud on any leg, that goes for naught.
Like I said, if you are going to evaluate, fine, but you get to score credit when you have good guys that run great , as well as the other side when you get good guys that seem to not get where folks MIGHT see them.
So you\\\'re mentioning 1 race in April where Michigan ran well?? Where were those freshman when it mattered. Neither of the New Zealanders could even qualify for regionals even though both of them had high school times that were more competitive then nearly every U.S. freshman.
Michigan only qualified 2 guys for regionals in the 800-10,000. Who cares about what happens at penn.
No stud on any leg?? Dallas Bowden ran a 3:46 1500 as a 16 YEAR OLD. Thats better then any 16 year old sophomore has ever run in the United States. Somebody who ran a 3:46 as a 16 year old should be making nationals by his freshman year in college...
Would somebody, please, explain what's going on w/Ron - a guy I've known since I was a freshman at EMU - 40 years ago? Thanks.
The truth is that Warhurst is not developing his talent. He has people like Craig Forys hardly even racing. He's not a great coach, anybody with that kind of talent coming in can squeak in a couple good runners. Ron just hasn't been getting it done as of late and is a shadow of what Michigan used to be.
We don't know if this true, but if it was then UM would be wise to look right across the corridor and give the job to one of the most underappreciated coaches in the country in Mike McGuire. MM doesn't ever look for the spotlight, and just focuses on coaching his athletes, and is one of the most respected coaches around. His results are consistent and high level. He bleeds blue and gold and would do a great job in a combined program. Of the Big 10 programs PSU, IU, PU, MSU are combined and UW, Iowa work together. Only OhioSt, Ill, and Minn still have separate programs.
Maize and Blue...it's not Notre Dame
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He bleeds blue and gold and would do a great job in a combined program.