Wow. This guy is amazing. He continues to improve in his performances, as he sets new PRs. I can't wait to see what he'll do in track this summer. Hopefully he'll get close to or break Ritz's 12:56. I think he has the potential. And of course with Al Sal by his side, pretty much anything is possible. It's going to be a great summer.
Yeah, and he missed the American Record by just 11 seconds!
Solinsky will hand the throne to rupp? Rupp is much more talented than solinsky. I'm sure rupp will run sub 27 and get the AR at some point but the difference is that no one will care.
lohalloran wrote:
Solinsky will hand the throne to rupp? Rupp is much more talented than solinsky. I'm sure rupp will run sub 27 and get the AR at some point but the difference is that no one will care.
Why do people care now then?
No. You would pretend you didn't care. Then when somebody came along to break a Rupp record you would be posting on this board not stop about how Rupp got beaten.
lohalloran wrote:
Solinsky will hand the throne to rupp? Rupp is much more talented than solinsky. I'm sure rupp will run sub 27 and get the AR at some point but the difference is that no one will care.
lohalloran wrote:
Solinsky will hand the throne to rupp? Rupp is much more talented than solinsky. I'm sure rupp will run sub 27 and get the AR at some point but the difference is that no one will care.
Um, did you just see what happened yesterday?
THRONE- as in what a Pope or King sits in, a King, in this case KING of the track, which Sol-in-sky just proved he was by beating all the competition and setting a record in the process.
If I'm not mistaken, Rupp has no American Record at the 10K distance. Sol-in-sky does. Thus when Rupp exceeds Sol-in-sky's performance the throne will have passed to him, but not before since in order to have a record in the first place you have to win, which Rupp did not.
Sol-in-sky could retire tomorrow and Galen still would not be crowned. Not until he bests that time, and even more importantly, beats Sol-in-sky in a race to prove his worth, if he can be considered better.
If they were to race again tomorrow, it would be highly likely that Sol-in-sky would win again. And the next day, and the day after, and the day after that.
Until Rupp proves otherwise, that's how competition works.
I'd say the king is the defending US national champion == Rupp. THAT's how competition works.
SMUG wrote:
lohalloran wrote:Solinsky will hand the throne to rupp? Rupp is much more talented than solinsky. I'm sure rupp will run sub 27 and get the AR at some point but the difference is that no one will care.
Um, did you just see what happened yesterday?
THRONE- as in what a Pope or King sits in, a King, in this case KING of the track, which Sol-in-sky just proved he was by beating all the competition and setting a record in the process.
If I'm not mistaken, Rupp has no American Record at the 10K distance. Sol-in-sky does. Thus when Rupp exceeds Sol-in-sky's performance the throne will have passed to him, but not before since in order to have a record in the first place you have to win, which Rupp did not.
Sol-in-sky could retire tomorrow and Galen still would not be crowned. Not until he bests that time, and even more importantly, beats Sol-in-sky in a race to prove his worth, if he can be considered better.
If they were to race again tomorrow, it would be highly likely that Sol-in-sky would win again. And the next day, and the day after, and the day after that.
Until Rupp proves otherwise, that's how competition works.
What if we took into account international championship teams made?
Goes to Rupp.
What if we took into account highest placing at international championships?
Goes to Rupp again.
International teams made while a collgiate?
Must be from Oregon. They like to point out how good their runners did in race, despite getting beat. Then they just disregard or don't give praise to the other competitors that beat them. Like this thread for instance talks about Rupp who finished 4th, Ritz who didn't race and their coach Al Sal. No mention of the new American Record holder from that same race.
SMUG wrote:
He is 23.
When he is 25 he will be running faster than Solinsky. Both of them together will push each other to faster times.
Because of Rupp's youth he has nothing to worry about. I believe both will be Sub-27 athletes, just right now, and probably for the next few years, Solinsky may have the edge and thats a good thing.
When Solinsky decides to hang up the spikes in a few years, he can hand the throne onto Rupp, and it will mean so much more that way.
America has a chance to actually not look like a bunch of fags for once, like we did in the 70's. Talented bunch of guys then too, some went all the way, but in the end they failed to ignite a passion.
Rupp and Solinsky together can get this done, they can do what those guys 30 years ago couldn't do.
This is a good point, Rupp can't even grow a mustache yet.
Solinski may never run that fast again.
Rupp may take that record by late summer.
Give Rupp more time, Salazar is guiding him well, and he is stacking year after year of great training.
There's much more to come.
for realer wrote:
What if we took into account international championship teams made?
Goes to Rupp.
What if we took into account highest placing at international championships?
Goes to Rupp again.
International teams made while a collgiate?
how about we put them both in a race and see who wins? isn't that a legitimate way to determine who's faster without crunching all those numbers?
Goes to Solinsky
duckshirt wrote:
for realer wrote:What if we took into account international championship teams made?
Goes to Rupp.
What if we took into account highest placing at international championships?
Goes to Rupp again.
International teams made while a collgiate?
how about we put them both in a race and see who wins? isn't that a legitimate way to determine who's faster without crunching all those numbers?
Goes to Solinsky
You are thinking micro temporal.
When all is said and done, Rupp will have the better record, the records, and the better career.
Be patient.
Solinsky just graduated three years ago. rupp graduated last year. They are close in age. They were competitors in college and will continue to be competitors in the pros for many years. Advantage, solinsky.
sweathog wrote:
I'd say the king is the defending US national champion == Rupp. THAT's how competition works.
SMUG wrote:Um, did you just see what happened yesterday?
THRONE- as in what a Pope or King sits in, a King, in this case KING of the track, which Sol-in-sky just proved he was by beating all the competition and setting a record in the process.
If I'm not mistaken, Rupp has no American Record at the 10K distance. Sol-in-sky does. Thus when Rupp exceeds Sol-in-sky's performance the throne will have passed to him, but not before since in order to have a record in the first place you have to win, which Rupp did not.
Sol-in-sky could retire tomorrow and Galen still would not be crowned. Not until he bests that time, and even more importantly, beats Sol-in-sky in a race to prove his worth, if he can be considered better.
If they were to race again tomorrow, it would be highly likely that Sol-in-sky would win again. And the next day, and the day after, and the day after that.
Until Rupp proves otherwise, that's how competition works.
The defending national champ just got beat. THAT'S how competition works.
A Duck wrote:
This is a good point, Rupp can't even grow a mustache yet.
Solinski may never run that fast again.
Rupp may take that record by late summer.
Give Rupp more time, Salazar is guiding him well, and he is stacking year after year of great training.
There's much more to come.
Can't you just wish both of them well? The Oregon 'groups' in general are slowly making headway in showing that it's possible for "lowlanders" to compete against the "mountain men".
Fantastic run by Rupp, very gutsy pushing the pace. Ran himself wobbily legged. Incredible run by Solinsky - especially over that last 800. He had more in the tank for sure.
Can someone go over how competition works again, please?
He will break 13 before years end.
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