Asics Tarther or DS Racer

I've been running in the tarther for about 4 months now, haven't had any problems and i really like the feel of the shoe.

You're comparing an orange to a clementine.

This comes down to whether you'd prefer a neutral shoe or one with mild stability. The Tarther is neutral and the DS Racer is the slightly stable one. For what it's worth, the Tarther does have a hint of stability and the DS Racer isn't all that stable, but still, there is a difference.

I'm curious what the other flat is you're using. The Asics shoes have a little bit of a heel-to-toe offset. Might want to make sure you know how all the shoes compare to one another.

Currently running in Brooks ST-Racer

Aren't you basically saying that they both have a little stability?

Shoebacca wrote:

You're comparing an orange to a clementine.

This comes down to whether you'd prefer a neutral shoe or one with mild stability. The Tarther is neutral and the DS Racer is the slightly stable one. For what it's worth, the Tarther does have a hint of stability and the DS Racer isn't all that stable, but still, there is a difference.

I'm curious what the other flat is you're using. The Asics shoes have a little bit of a heel-to-toe offset. Might want to make sure you know how all the shoes compare to one another.

What about the Asics Hyper Speed? It's about the same weight as the Tarther with less of a heel to toe drop.

DS Racer is going to be more like the ST Racer. Both of the Asics shoes are going to have a smaller offset than the ST racer.

I'm neutral, so I live in the T6/Tarther world. I think the T6 is like 20/8 and the Tarther is like 19/10 for offsets. Despite being shoes capable of doing the same things, they feel quite a bit different on my feet.

I recommend trying the DS Racer if you're looking for it to be a smooth adjustment. Your feet and ankles might move around differently and land harder if you go right to the Tarther.

Thanks man, I might give the DS Racer a shot. I'm pretty neutral as well, 6' and 144 lbs. Any thoughts on the Hyperspeed? This shoe looks like it might be good option as well.

Shoebacca wrote:

DS Racer is going to be more like the ST Racer. Both of the Asics shoes are going to have a smaller offset than the ST racer.

I'm neutral, so I live in the T6/Tarther world. I think the T6 is like 20/8 and the Tarther is like 19/10 for offsets. Despite being shoes capable of doing the same things, they feel quite a bit different on my feet.

I recommend trying the DS Racer if you're looking for it to be a smooth adjustment. Your feet and ankles might move around differently and land harder if you go right to the Tarther.

Shoebacca wrote:

DS Racer is going to be more like the ST Racer. Both of the Asics shoes are going to have a smaller offset than the ST racer.

I'm neutral, so I live in the T6/Tarther world. I think the T6 is like 20/8 and the Tarther is like 19/10 for offsets. Despite being shoes capable of doing the same things, they feel quite a bit different on my feet.

I recommend trying the DS Racer if you're looking for it to be a smooth adjustment. Your feet and ankles might move around differently and land harder if you go right to the Tarther.

You have not worn both shoes, my friend, they don't fit anything like each other.

The new DS racers are VERY snug fitting, especially in the midfoot and heel. They also have a very prominent arch. The fit reminds me very much of the Nike Lunaracer.

The Brooks Racer ST fits roomier, straighter last, lower arch, firmer cushion. The Tarther will fit and feel much more closely to the Racer ST than the DS Racer.

I would seriously recommend trying both of them on if you have the chance.

I have tried on the DS Racer, it was a firm responsive shoe not unlike the Brooks ST... I have not tried on the Tarther, adn I don't have the opportunity to.

Can you explain what you mean by 20/8 and 19/10.

That's the heel-to-toe offset measured in mm. Most trainers are like 24mm heel to 12mm toe. So like the Tarther is 19mm high in the heel and 10mm high in the toe. The T6 is 20mm high in the heel and 8mm in the toe, I think. Shoes with a smaller offset (less heel) help you get off your heels better, though people who have been running in trainers forever might put some extra strain on their calves and Achilles until they get used to a smaller offset.

The heel to toe drop was what I was talking about in my earlier post. The Hyper Speed is 15/10 according to Running Warehouse, so it has a comparatively low heel.