Anybody Try the Mizuno Wave Ronin and Musha 2?

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14 years ago 04/06/2010 9:00am EDT

I'm looking for a lighter weight shoe with a wider forefoot (I've been using asics flats but my feet are too wide and they rip the forefoot after a few hundred miles)

I used to have a pair of Wave Rider 12s and they fit perfectly in the forefoot, but switched to Asics because of my school sponsorship, but I'll buy a pair of shoes if it means they will fit a little better.

So those are the two shoes I'm looking at specifically, any major problems with them? How does the forefoot width compare to other shoes? How minimal are they?

14 years ago 04/06/2010 9:25am EDT

re: FroshRunning

I've worn the wave rider and the ronin. The fit is very similar to the wave rider. Unfortunately the toe box is a little narrower than the rider which bothers me a bit. The shoe is pretty "minimal" although maybe not that minimal for a flat. (I actually wear them every day.) The heel is a little high for my taste.

14 years ago 04/06/2010 10:13am EDT

re: ronin wearer

the Ronin is a great flat, I would consider it a wide toe box. My favorite training flat.

14 years ago 04/06/2010 11:13am EDT

re: FroshRunning

I've used them both recently. In fact, the orange ronin II is back in the closet. The Musha fits me quite better. I guess I have a Japanese-type foot - if there is such a thing. Narrow heel, and a duck-like forefoot - it's wide. The Musha is great - filled in arch area on the bottom - no plastic - w/ a blown rubber forefoot. Quiet ride. I did go up a half-size, just to give me wiggle room. I like the wave thingy cause it keeps the midsole from distorting. Hey, it's cheaper than the Ronin, also. Holabird and Running Warehouse are comparable.

14 years ago 04/06/2010 11:21am EDT

re: FroshRunning

I just picked up a pair of Ronins last weekend. Great flat. I was planning on running my next marathon in Lunaracers again but now I'm not sure.

Ronins are heavier than the lunas but have good cushioning in the forefoot and ride a little bit firmer which I like.

Ronins definitely have a wide forefoot. One thing about them which was also true with the last pair of Mizuno racing flats I had to buy (admittedly a long time ago) is that I needed to go down half a size. I wear 10.5 in just about everything. With the Ronins I needed 10.0.

14 years ago 04/06/2010 8:41pm EDT

re: FroshRunning

Sorry for the bump guys, but does the Musha have a post? I usually get knee injuries if I run with a shoe with even minimal post.

14 years ago 04/06/2010 9:27pm EDT

re: FroshRunning

I love the Ronin. I find the toe box to feel wider than my Rider, actually.

Looking at pictures of the Musha, it looks less like a true medial post and more like just very filled in under the inner foot side. It's hard to tell what the "waves" might be doing inside, though.

I thought the Hyper Speed was fairly wide? Did you not find that to be the case? Maybe try the new Tarther? I'm fairly surprised you're having bad luck with Asics.

14 years ago 04/06/2010 11:18pm EDT

re: FroshRunning

FroshRunning wrote:
Sorry for the bump guys, but does the Musha have a post? I usually get knee injuries if I run with a shoe with even minimal post.

The musha has no posting, but it does have a very flat, broad midfoot. This does give it a little more stability than your average narrow-waisted flat, but there is nothing in it like a post.

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