6'2" 190lb runner, looking for fast, lightweight training shoe

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

Shoes can be light but they cannot be fast. You, sir, must be the fast one.

Whatever you decide to do, try out the shoes you get on a few long workouts/runs. If you haven't been going over 8 miles on any runs you're going to be in trouble in a marathon anyway, so your shoes better not make it worse.

New Balance 826. They don't make them anymore (I don't know what the new version is either) but you can find them on the internet. Try tricity new balance. But these are light weight, neutral, sturdy, sounds right for you.

The title of this thread sounds like a personal ad.

I think you should add some things to the end.

6'2" 190lb runner, looking for fast, lightweight training shoe. Must like to take long walks on the beach, and be very supportive. Must not walk out on me, and ability to give foot massages a plus.

:)

I really like the NB 826 as an everyday shoe and for racing (5K to half marathon). But it is hard to find, although tricity still has them. It apparently won't be replaced by NB, which is really a shame.

A similar shoe that I also like is the Asics Speedstar. $65 at Holabird.

Thanks for the tips. Also, I am 14 weeks out, so I will be increasing my mileage as I go. I don't plan on just jumping in to it.

14 weeks out and your long run is 8 miles? ROFLMAO

Rob W wrote:

Thanks for the tips. Also, I am 14 weeks out, so I will be increasing my mileage as I go. I don't plan on just jumping in to it.

try the Mizuno Wave Creation. It's excellent for neutral runners

If you are sure this is a good idea, look at the end of the jack daniels book for a program for 'completing' the marathon.

The skepticism you heard on this thread is because generally its considered inadvisable to jump into a marathon without a lot of hard work behind it, which you don't have time to build up to.

Good luck. Stay healthy.

I'll try to help, I'm 6'7 200 and I use the Brooks glycerin as my daily and ghost 2 a couple days a week. I'm usually between 50-70 miles.

Rob W wrote:

Thanks for the tips. Also, I am 14 weeks out, so I will be increasing my mileage as I go. I don't plan on just jumping in to it.

Rob, as a newish runner why stampede straight to the marathon? How about a couple of years of 5k, 8k, 10k to get a feel for running & racing?

I can see there is some confusion, here. I am A) following the guidelines from the book "The Non-Runner's Marathon Trainer," and I was already in shape before starting this training. 13 weeks out now, and I am hardly worried. I have a solid performance plan, nutrition is great, and I am a triathlete, so I have XT.

So, essentially, I am exceptionally athletic, and have been my whole life, but just haven't done marathon distances.

After reading more, I suppose I am going to hold off on too lightweight shoes, and maybe opt for something like the Kayano 16 or Adrenaline GTS 10 for the marathon, opting for lighter shoes once I have cut 10 to 20 pounds.

I looked at this book. Good luck. Peak mileage of 36 and two 18 mile long runs sounds a little light, but without a couple or three thousand miles in the last year that's probably all you can handle without injury.I'd like to hear how it goes after the race. Please post a race report on this thread.

gobble the parish man wrote:

14 weeks out and your long run is 8 miles?

ROFLMAO

Rob W wrote:

Thanks for the tips. Also, I am 14 weeks out, so I will be increasing my mileage as I go. I don't plan on just jumping in to it.

You are a neutral runner and run in a 2140. Why? Are you really neutral? The 2140 is for (mild) overpronators.

You want to run in lighter shoes and now you come up with the idea of running the marathon in the Kayano instead of 2140. The Kayanos are even heavier/bulkier. Additionally, the Kayano also has pronation support. Why would you wanna wear that if you are a neutral runner?

Nia: I for sure will post a race report. I know to chronic marathoners it may seem silly, but I am not going off half-cocked. I have many friends who used this book or similar training schedules and did just fine. It's not like I plan on being competitive, right away.

Nutella1, As to being a neutral runner in a 2140:

As I am 190, I feel that a stability/motion control shoe feels best under me right now. I know that as I drop weight, shoes that complement my biomechanics will be possible. I recently went in to a local running store for another eval, and they told me normal arches and said neutral mechanics based off my walking. I tend to feel as if I may be developing light shin pains, so was thinking moving more toward the Adrenaline could help that. I also used the Runner's World shoe calculator, and it recommended primary: stability, secondary: motion control.

And yes, I know the other shoes are heavier, but I opted for injury prevention over speed for this first marathon.

I am big guy 205 lbs 18:42 5km runner. Lunar trainer for speed work/fast tempo run and races only. Great shoes but break down quickly (350 miles).

Well, most people that weight overpronate so maybe it's a good idea to doublecheck if you are or not. If you feel comfortable in 2140 then IMHO there is a reason for that. But who knows.

I'm 195 and ran countless miles in 2060 to 2140's and recently opted for the DS Trainer. Similar cut, but less weight. Feels great.

But again: don't trust too much on RW, go to a local store and let them help you is my advise.

I'd look into a trainer that's about 10-11 ounces. Brooks Defyance 2 or the Asics Gel Landreth is a good start. Then if you need slightly lighter maybe look into the performance trainer category where there are loads of options - Mizuno Precision, Brooks Launch, Brooks Ghost, Nike Zoom Marathoner, Saucony Sinister/Grid Tangent, DS Trainers (although some support - not really a neutral shoe), umm...you name it there's something.

when i started running 9 years ago I was a GT-2040 to 2050 guy. i am a neutral runner though so it didnt make sense any longer. plus as i got faster i didn't really want a bulky shoe. it seems counterintuitive but over the long run you are better off doing lots of miles in flexible neutral shoes, good cushioning or not, than something that offers protection. you will be more sore/injury prone at first, but if you take it easy in the beginning it's a good change to make in the long-run.