He was 11th. Discuss the ramifications of this.
He was 11th. Discuss the ramifications of this.
Puskedra was 11th last week.
Fernandez will be ready when it counts. It's hard to overrate him, considering everything he's done so far.
I agree that G.F.'s last race (11th or what ever it was) is not an indication toward what he'll accomplish this year.
Like the previous poster noted. Puskedra was 11th two weeks ago.
My gf has a Whooty! wrote:
Puskedra was 11th two weeks ago.
so you are agreeing that german is two weeks of fitness behind puskedra...thank god i felt like i was alone of this subject
EPO
Nah, German's clearly better. This isn't even worth disputing... it's stupid. If you read the article from Stillwater, you would know that he wasn't running consistently for 2 months due to nagging injuries. TWO MONTHS. That's 8 weeks, chief. That's the majority of the summer. That means when Derrick and Puskedra were cranking mid-summer tempos, GF was chillin, probly throwin back Natties and takin drags of the stanky stank. Don't worry, the prodigy will be back when it counts.
HOLLA
Reasoning wrote:
Nah, German's clearly better. This isn't even worth disputing... it's stupid. If you read the article from Stillwater, you would know that he wasn't running consistently for 2 months due to nagging injuries. TWO MONTHS. That's 8 weeks, chief. That's the majority of the summer. That means when Derrick and Puskedra were cranking mid-summer tempos, GF was chillin, probly throwin back Natties and takin drags of the stanky stank. Don't worry, the prodigy will be back when it counts.
HOLLA
missing summer training is a bigger deal than i think you realize. resting is always a good thing, but when you run poorly like German did on saturday because you have missed training time, it may be a bigger deal than you think. Coming up big "when it counts" takes work. He might not have enough time to make up for all that missed training. I guess we will know in a month
Who cares? It's one season of X-C. The guy ran 13:25 at age 18! Gain some perspective . . . please.
ochocincoooo wrote:
He was 11th. Discuss the ramifications of this.
Valid point... but you have to believe that if anybody can beat the odds and rely heavily on talent for college XC, despite mediocre base training, it's a 3:55/7:47/13:25 18-year-old.
Reasoning wrote:
Valid point... but you have to believe that if anybody can beat the odds and rely heavily on talent for college XC, despite mediocre base training, it's a 3:55/7:47/13:25 18-year-old.
I disagree. Someone with a lot of training and mileage under his/her legs i believe can recover from missing time better than someone who is still young and does not have the same high mileage training in their past. I could be wrong, but i'd take an accomplished 5k/10k runner recovering for an xc season over an accomplished 1500/5k guy most of the time. Again, german is talented so maybe he can prove me wrong. THis of course is all moot if german was just cruising on saturday, and not in fact hurting like many here have been saying.
There are no facts that he missed any base training or any training at all. I like that OSU is keeping quite on the matter. After the Jamoree DS stated they did not rest. Maybe GF did not rest prior to CP. It's an odd thing not resting before a meet. It's almost 50/50 on performances. Some runners fly without resting and other are heavy and tired. Only the Monday before Thanksgiving counts, everything else is just prep.
Ritz proved talent can win out.
How can you say "there are no facts" concerning GF's missed summer training when there is another thread on this very website that links to a Stillwater article explicitly stating the contrary?
oldoldrunner wrote:
There are no facts that he missed any base training or any training at all. I like that OSU is keeping quite on the matter. After the Jamoree DS stated they did not rest. Maybe GF did not rest prior to CP. It's an odd thing not resting before a meet. It's almost 50/50 on performances. Some runners fly without resting and other are heavy and tired. Only the Monday before Thanksgiving counts, everything else is just prep.
Don't know if you're really oldold or just go by that. But your posts consistently show the perspective of someone with maturity. I appreciate seeing that here.
German may have missed training but he has come back fast in the past. He also missed time after cross and missed time after world cross but both times he came back in great shape.
Everything I have read says that he cross trains very hard when injured so given a few weeks to get his running legs back he should be fine.
I don't like it. I'm thinking they are targeting German's forth race ..as Nationals. Three to go. I don't think he can catch Derrick or Puskedra. Derrick said after PRE Nationals they are gonna be uping the training. Derrick is running long long long some more. We are talking 10000 here not 1500 or the mile etc. Think German is to far back and he seems to come back slow for the longer events. Really hope I'm wrong but maybe some others might be the ones that are up there at the final.
Reasoning wrote:
How can you say "there are no facts" concerning GF's missed summer training when there is another thread on this very website that links to a Stillwater article explicitly stating the contrary?
It states his training was inconsistent. It does not state he missed summer training. You can train through minor injuries, like run distance and not do any fast stuff. Only the people at OSU know the truth.
Relying on talent with no training is fine, when only running a mile.
German struggles at 5k, and doesn't do nearly as well.
Now to miss training before xc nationals does not look good for him.
history repleats itself wrote:
German struggles at 5k, and doesn't do nearly as well.
I'd love to struggle and run a 13:25 while getting 5th at USAs.
"German struggles at 5k, and doesn't do nearly as well."
I wished I had "struggled" as much as he does: 18 years old with 2 5k track races under his belt: 13:31 and 13:25. That's some serious struggling.