Did US men do well at Chicago?

*not sure

Well, I guess those are nice races for Reyes and Rizzo, but the fact is there aren't as many elite foreigner runners in Chicago as there used to be, so the standings are a bit misleading.

Nice run by the Shackletons.

Way to go Rizzo!!!

Only 20 under 2:20 at Chicago? Back in the 80s at Boston there were 200 under 2:20

2:20 or bust wrote:

Back in the 80s at Boston there were 200 under 2:20

No there weren't.

Less than half that. Or did you mean in the 80s total?

2:20 or bust wrote:

Only 20 under 2:20 at Chicago? Back in the 80s at Boston there were 200 under 2:20

Kyle And Drew!!!! Wooo-Hooo! Awesome!

Considering that I would expect a far deeper US representation in NYC in a few weeks, those are not some bad times put out there. Hopefully over the next few years many of those 28/29 min 10K guys in college will continue to add depth to the marathoning scene.

I'd be interested to know how the last few years in the top 50 US 10K list compare to the peak years in the late 70's and early 80's - as I would guess that is a good indicator of what to expect depth wise in the marathon in a few years. This is based on the assumption that most of the guys on the top 50 list (besides the very top) are either in college or recently out.

Sergio Reyes is a boss.

No better than 2:15? Is this 2009 or 1997? Is the much-ballyhooed USA marathon resurgence dead already?

BOHICA wrote:

No better than 2:15? Is this 2009 or 1997? Is the much-ballyhooed USA marathon resurgence dead already?

NYC is the USATF Marathon Championship so a lot of the upper B level and all of the top Americans took a pass on Chicago this year.

also had some good guys run twin cities as well last week.

Fair point. I see now that NYC is offering pretty liberal standards for travel, hotel, and meals and even just for free entry. I guess if you're going to bother running sub-2:19 then you might as well make it count for qualification for the 2012 OT.

Qualified for 2012 USA Olympic Trials (7)

2:15:30, Sergio Reyes

2:15:48, Patrick Rizzo

2:17:42, Michael McKeeman

2:17:56, Drew Shackleton

2:18:00, Kyle Shackleton

2:18:02, Jeff Jonaitis

2:18:53, John Lucas

Would have Qualified under 2008 Standard (9)

2:19:16, Bret Schoolmeester

2:19:22, Matthew Bartlebaugh

2:20:04, Brandon Mull

2:20:23, Marc Jeuland

2:20:47, Chad Ware

2:21:17, Jesse Davis

2:21:37, Khalib Wilkinson

2:21:50, David Williams

2:22:01, Robert Scribner * (perhaps on petition)

Would have had Hope to Continue for 2012

*(within a couple of minutes of 2008 Standard)

2:22:18, Hector Rivera

2:22:32, Jason Flogel

2:22:40, Jason Ryf

2:22:51, Randy Bill

2:22:55, Jeff Powers

2:23:19, Brent Martin

2:23:26, Teage O'Connor

2:23:33, Kirby Davis

2:23:47, Kaleb Vanort

2:23:45, Pete Gilman

2:23:56, Mark Batres

2:24:03, Seth Hutchinson

2:24:25, Stewart Ellington

2:24:41, John Thompson

2:25:01, Edward Callinan

What happened to Seth Pilkington? Anyone?

Are you saying that any and all of these guys have no "Hope" to "Continue"?

nepoks wrote:

Would have had Hope to Continue for 2012

*(within a couple of minutes of 2008 Standard)

2:22:18, Hector Rivera

2:22:32, Jason Flogel

2:22:40, Jason Ryf

2:22:51, Randy Bill

2:22:55, Jeff Powers

2:23:19, Brent Martin

2:23:26, Teage O'Connor

2:23:33, Kirby Davis

2:23:47, Kaleb Vanort

2:23:45, Pete Gilman

2:23:56, Mark Batres

2:24:03, Seth Hutchinson

2:24:25, Stewart Ellington

2:24:41, John Thompson

2:25:01, Edward Callinan

i saw pilkington walking (in the wrong direction) right around the 25k mark. not sure what happened but i'm guessing he dropped out around that point.

look at the past 2 years. reults werent much better. Granted 2007 they had the trials a few weeks later. But last year wasnt much faster by the US men