Nike Air Zoom Elite+ 4

I'm on my second pair of the 4's, and I've worn every model of the elites, each model has gotten a bit more "substantial" but they are still my go to shoe. I like them a lot. I think they wear out a bit quick though.

The elite 3 bothered me. I don't know maybe too much shoe. After 10 miles I started to feel like I was in a war with the shoes. Currently on my 5th pair of Luna trainers and I really like them but wish I had a shoe to alternate with the Luna.

Would you say they've gotten more "substantial" because they've added more cushion to the outsole, or just because they added a bunch of needless crap?

pnw runner wrote:

Would you say they've gotten more "substantial" because they've added more cushion to the outsole, or just because they added a bunch of needless crap?

The def' have more cushion than the elite 3's. I still really like them, they just don't "feel" as fast as prior versions. Like I said, I think each version has added a bit cushier feel.

The victory trainer reminds me of the original elites, a good fast feeling shoe. I'm also rotating a pair of luna trainers in, which I also really like for the days I'm feeling a bit beat up.

I'm going to be using them as trainers for easy runs and long runs; I wear the Streak XC's for workouts.

Besides the Elite 4 being a stability shoe and the Victory a neutral shoe, how would you compare the cushioning between the two?

pnw runner wrote:

I'm going to be using them as trainers for easy runs and long runs; I wear the Streak XC's for workouts.

Besides the Elite 4 being a stability shoe and the Victory a neutral shoe, how would you compare the cushioning between the two?

The elites feel more cushioned than the victories. The victories feel like a beefier version of the streak xc's.

they're my favorite training shoe. to give you an idea of my fit/running style, I say this having also worn (and/or wearing) stuff like asics ds-trainers, mizuno inspire, new balance 900-series, etc.

May try the victory bc I did like the elites of old. How is the toe box of the victory. I can't wear anything narrower than the elite.

1500 wrote:

May try the victory bc I did like the elites of old. How is the toe box of the victory. I can't wear anything narrower than the elite.

Vitctory is wider than the elites.

Not trying to change the subject of the thread too much, as I have not tried the elite 4 yet. I switched after the elite 3s because I felt like the heel was too high. I was a big fan of the elite I and IIs, maybe my favorite shoes ever, but was very disappointed by where the shoes have gone since then. I wish I could still get the I and IIs.

I just went and tried on a pair of the Elite 4 during my lunch break, and did not like them. The heel is pretty high, and they have this weird "bulge" in the outsole forefoot that I can feel on the ball of my feet. I decided to stick with what I was wearing (Adizero Tempo).

Thanks for all of the information though!