We're running damn near as hard as we can in the middle of a tough training week. We haven't tapered, we're sore, our preparation for the run is half-assed at best, the conditions are far from ideal, and our motivation is questionable. When it's all said and done, our pace works out to approximately what the gurus suggest. Discuss.
you must be doing something wrong
What's your point?
You must understand that the so-called gurus computes tempo-pace from race rimes. That means you should feel as fresh and light as you do when you are race fit.
Drop the pace and get yourself a heart-rate monitor and use it ALL the time. Yes the HR fluctates from day to day and some says it's useless because of that. As long as you stay well below the targeted HR it doesn't matter.
You'd better hope Malmo doesn't read this.
seser wrote:
You must understand that the so-called gurus computes tempo-pace from race rimes. That means you should feel as fresh and light as you do when you are race fit.
Drop the pace and get yourself a heart-rate monitor and use it ALL the time. Yes the HR fluctates from day to day and some says it's useless because of that. As long as you stay well below the targeted HR it doesn't matter.
Yes because that's how races are won and lost by who has the lowest HR.
Use the watch, use your head- run.
jizzmo wrote:
Yes because that's how races are won and lost by who has the lowest HR.
Actually, yes, in a way this is true. The guy who is only at 90% of his max HR midway through the race will probably beat the guys who are already laboring at 95%.
The toughest guy doesn't necessarily win the race. Don't train to get used to the pain of racing, train so that a particular racing speed is not as painful. There's a difference.
Train smarter. If that means wearing a HR monitor, so be it.
Is it even possible to race without being in excruciating pain? I can't recall the last time I raced and didn't want to just lay down and die with 1k to go, no matter how fast I was going.
yaa... wrote:
Is it even possible to race without being in excruciating pain? I can't recall the last time I raced and didn't want to just lay down and die with 1k to go, no matter how fast I was going.
freshman year is always tough, son
yaa... wrote:
Is it even possible to race without being in excruciating pain? I can't recall the last time I raced and didn't want to just lay down and die with 1k to go, no matter how fast I was going.
You didn't understand my statement.
Let's say that when you were young, maybe you were a 18:00 guy for 5k. Now you're a 17:00 guy for 5k. Are you faster now because you've learned to tolerate the pain so much better? Not necessarily. 18:00 is simply comfortable now.
My point was that people should not do workouts designed to get them used to the pain of racing. Use races for that. Workouts should instead be designed to bring about the physiological changes that allow you to simply be more comfortable at faster paces.
So don't try to hit certain times in workouts if those times are above your head. And don't be afraid to wear a HR monitor for certain types of runs to help you train in the ideal zone that will lead to the intended adaptation for that workout.
seser wrote:
You must understand that the so-called gurus computes tempo-pace from race rimes.
Yo, I ran real fast in a race yestaday
I ran under 18 minutes for a 5k
I wouldn't have it any other way
I gotta earn my insurance copay
I calculated my tempo effort from that race
Who woulda known it would be an easy pace
The splits were cake, so easy to chase
That I think Jack Daniels is a total disgrace
This tempo run was easy, I didn't feel queasy
The easy pace just didn't appease me,
The day was cold and a little breezy
but still the pace felt easy on my knees you see
Yo, Jack Daniels here, seems to be a misunderstanding
Maybe you're in better shape then you were planning
Everyone knows that it's just a guideline
Somedays your just feeling fine
Yo, Canova here, did you measure your lactate?
keep an even pace or it's sure to fluctuate
Don't listen to jacky here, he's just here to tailgate
You wanna unlock your talent, it's me you wanna activate.
Yo, Galloway here, mad bitchez talkin shit they're all fake
Whatcha gotta do is take a walk break!
Very clever. I like the pause before the last -line zinger. Fantastic!