I'm a supinator and looking for a new pair of trainers. I'm intrigued by the new Nike offerings. I haven't tried on either of these shoes but want to purchase a pair. I'm leaning toward the Lunar Trainer. My concern is the durability of both of these shoes. I'm running about 50 miles a week and want something that will hold up for at least 250 miles.
Please provided me some feedback. I'd really appreciate it.
The Victory is like the Skylon but, for me, a better shoe. The Lunar Trainer feels like nothing I have run in before (I don't mean that necessarily as a superlative, I mean it is hard to compare it to other shoes). It has a more bouncy feel but is also very light and has a minimal upper.
In terms of durability I have not done enough in either shoe to know but I would lean towards the Victory.
See:
http://www.shoeguide.co.uk/exec/view-shoe/nike-zoom-victory+-mens-2008-6
and
http://www.shoeguide.co.uk/exec/view-shoe/nike-lunar-trainer-mens-2008-6
WHy is the Skylon still in line alongside the Victory?
Does anybody know when the Victory will be available in the U.S.?
I understand that it's a July launch in the US.
Early tester wrote:
The Victory is like the Skylon but, for me, a better shoe. The Lunar Trainer feels like nothing I have run in before (I don't mean that necessarily as a superlative, I mean it is hard to compare it to other shoes). It has a more bouncy feel but is also very light and has a minimal upper.
In terms of durability I have not done enough in either shoe to know but I would lean towards the Victory.
See:
http://www.shoeguide.co.uk/exec/view-shoe/nike-zoom-victory+-mens-2008-6and
http://www.shoeguide.co.uk/exec/view-shoe/nike-lunar-trainer-mens-2008-6
Have you or anyone else run in the Lunar Racer?
Why then? wrote:
WHy is the Skylon still in line alongside the Victory?
different midsole, different upper, different price...
Skylon is established model name (although they've FUBARed once or twice thru the years)
the new luna stuff is allegedly a new technology
But why have two shoes so similar in the line. Wouldn't they be looking to push the new technology and so get people to go for the Victory not the Skylon.?
The Skylon looks quite a bit different to the Victory.
http://www.shoeguide.co.uk/exec/view-shoe/nike-air-zoom-skylon-mens-2007-6
The Pegasus TC looks to have gone from the line.
I'll be sticking with the Skylon. I can wait to see whether this Lunar Foam is up to all its meant to be.
Bought them yesterday have 25 miles on them so far will get another 7-10 tomorrow and have another pair coming to me next week. These shoes are amazing. Snatch them up while you can. 100$ is a decent price for a smoking shoe. I will be happy with anything mileagewise around 300-500 with the soles as soft as they are I ran trails and roads and both surfaces felt amazing in these shoes...ps. I usually hate HATE HATE nike shoes. Get them.
so did you buy the lunar trainers or the nike victory trainers
pantani, can you give some more detail? what makes the shoe so great?? i am wearing the asics DS trainer 13 right now and really like those. is the victory pretty much a comparable lightweight trainer? what are its pros/cons? thanks alot
The Victory is NOT exactly like the Skylon, hence the existence of both shoes in the line. While they are both neutral, lightweight trainers, the Victory is much more like the Zoom RS Trainer from last Fall or the Jasari Trainer from this Spring. The Victory is stiffer and a bit firmer ride than the Skylon, although the Skylon Fall 2008 is firmer than previous versions. We got our Victory trainers in on June 28th and already I've put 38 miles in on them in four runs. I love the ride of them to this point...very firm and responsive. I've struggled to develop an affinity for the Skylon (probably because I'm old and decrepit) but the Victory Trainer is worth a look. Good luck.
Sorry the Racers my bad. Trainers I tried on both and found the Victory to be stiff and too high of a heel counter, the Trainer too squishy and wide in the toe box, like way wide.
I too am training in DS trainer 13s and also run in Elixors I would rate the racer for sure a good buy, the other two regretfully nothing to report.
This is a nice throw back shoe to lower heels, slight curved last, good response on all surfaces thus far, will be interesting to see the foan in the rain.
Regarding the lunar racer. I need good cushioning in the forefoot, but not mushy. Like the Elite 3, though a little heavy for racing. The Miler road shoes did not have enough cushion for me in the forefoot. Anyone remember the original Streak, from around 1994? Lunar anything like that?
Thanks,
Richard
I have found the Lunar Trainer to be light and responsive - haven't run more than 5 miles in them so far and decided against running a 20 in them on Sunday as I think it may take time to adapt to the Free nature of the midsole. Great cushioning though and very comfortable
Did a fartlek/MRP session in the Racer on Saturday and felt I was bouncing along - felt a bit out of control going downhill but will get used to it. The flywire caused a small blister on my instep - I don't wear socks. Will probably get a slightly larger size for the Berlin Marathon
I raced in the luna racer recently. I thought it was nice. Light enough to feel comfortable enough for a 5k 10k, but enough under it that a marathon would be fine. I didn't really feel the upper at all. Underneath does feel a little different, like I'm running on a soft foam pad that's built up slightly in the heel and into the arch. I've worn a good hand full flats the last four years and these rank right up there at the top.
They are nice because they combine little weight (not quite like the mizuno universe but suprisingly close) with something substantial underneath.
Occasionally I have had to deal with some insertional achilles tendonitis. and mildly overpronate. Is the lunar racer going to give me trouble as a training shoe or I am better off in one of the adidas zero shoes ie the mana or RC?
Earth to Nike: 10+ oz. is NOT a lightweight trainer! 9 oz. is the traditional threshold.