Attention 2:37 Marathoners!

What makes you think it's really different from what 2:41-2:50 marathoners do? It's about putting in the work to do the miles. There are pace calculators on the web if you can't do the math on your own.

Thanks, but you don't have to be all philosophical here. It doesn't really help. I can make generalizations on my own. It's not that I can't calculate, it's that I don't want to. Thought it would be easier to just ask someone what they do. A lot of what you find on the web is a joke and suggests running something like 50mpw. I also find that I can't match the tempo pace suggested for a 2:40 marathoner in other programs. I was more curious to hear what 2:37 marathoners do because there are certain levels of commitment and talent required. I was hoping to hear from an actual 2:37 marathon what he/she is able to run for pace. For example, a common marathon pace run is 10min easy followed by 10mi at tempo pace. I'd like to know what paces are run in this case. I'd also like a little history on people so I can find someone with similar abilities. Some people have natural speed and don't handle high mileage. Other people can't handle workouts and just pound the pavement endlessly. All this information would be helpful in giving me a better understanding of where I should be.

Thanks, but you don't have to be all philosophical here. It doesn't really help. I can make generalizations on my own. It's not that I can't calculate, it's that I don't want to. Thought it would be easier to just ask someone what they do. A lot of what you find on the web is a joke and suggests running something like 50mpw. I also find that I can't match the tempo pace suggested for a 2:40 marathoner in other programs. I was more curious to hear what 2:37 marathoners do because there are certain levels of commitment and talent required. I was hoping to hear from an actual 2:37 marathon what he/she is able to run for pace. For example, a common marathon pace run is 10min easy followed by 10mi at tempo pace. I'd like to know what paces are run in this case. I'd also like a little history on people so I can find someone with similar abilities. Some people have natural speed and don't handle high mileage. Other people can't handle workouts and just pound the pavement endlessly. All this information would be helpful in giving me a better understanding of where I should be.

Thanks, but you don't have to be all philosophical here. It doesn't really help. I can make generalizations on my own. It's not that I can't calculate, it's that I don't want to. Thought it would be easier to just ask someone what they do. A lot of what you find on the web is a joke and suggests running something like 50mpw. I also find that I can't match the tempo pace suggested for a 2:40 marathoner in other programs. I was more curious to hear what 2:37 marathoners do because there are certain levels of commitment and talent required. I was hoping to hear from an actual 2:37 marathon what he/she is able to run for pace. For example, a common marathon pace run is 10min easy followed by 10mi at tempo pace. I'd like to know what paces are run in this case. I'd also like a little history on people so I can find someone with similar abilities. Some people have natural speed and don't handle high mileage. Other people can't handle workouts and just pound the pavement endlessly. All this information would be helpful in giving me a better understanding of where I should be.

Thanks, but you don't have to be all philosophical here. It doesn't really help. I can make generalizations on my own. It's not that I can't calculate, it's that I don't want to. Thought it would be easier to just ask someone what they do. A lot of what you find on the web is a joke and suggests running something like 50mpw. I also find that I can't match the tempo pace suggested for a 2:40 marathoner in other programs. I was more curious to hear what 2:37 marathoners do because there are certain levels of commitment and talent required. I was hoping to hear from an actual 2:37 marathon what he/she is able to run for pace. For example, a common marathon pace run is 10min easy followed by 10mi at tempo pace. I'd like to know what paces are run in this case. I'd also like a little history on people so I can find someone with similar abilities. Some people have natural speed and don't handle high mileage. Other people can't handle workouts and just pound the pavement endlessly. All this information would be helpful in giving me a better understanding of where I should be.

I'm wondering the same thing. I think 6-min. pace is about my limit as far as running 70 mpw and my so-so dedication level.

Where are those 2:37 marathoners?

Thanks, but you don't have to be all philosophical here. It doesn't really help. I can make generalizations on my own. It's not that I can't calculate, it's that I don't want to. Thought it would be easier to just ask someone what they do. A lot of what you find on the web is a joke and suggests running something like 50mpw. I also find that I can't match the tempo pace suggested for a 2:40 marathoner in other programs. I was more curious to hear what 2:37 marathoners do because there are certain levels of commitment and talent required. I was hoping to hear from an actual 2:37 marathon what he/she is able to run for pace. For example, a common marathon pace run is 10min easy followed by 10mi at tempo pace. I'd like to know what paces are run in this case. I'd also like a little history on people so I can find someone with similar abilities. Some people have natural speed and don't handle high mileage. Other people can't handle workouts and just pound the pavement endlessly. All this information would be helpful in giving me a better understanding of where I should be.

PR of 2:36:09

Looking back, my training wasn't too smart, but I didn't have a lot of time - full time job, little kids, etc.

5 months of 70-80 per week in 1 session per day.

12x200 @ 28-32 once per week

6 x 1 mile @ 5:10 - 5:15 OR 2 mile in 9:40's + 4x400@70-72 once per week

Remainder was distance running at 6:00-7:00 pace

Towards the race, replaced the long workout with a 20 miler every other week for a total of four 20 milers @6:05-15 pace - ran them too fast - last 20 miler 2 weeks prior to race.

Also raced 2 half marathons leading up to the race, the last one 5 weeks prior to the race - 1:12's for both.

Thanks, but you don't have to be all philosophical here. It doesn't really help. I can make generalizations on my own. It's not that I can't calculate, it's that I don't want to. Thought it would be easier to just ask someone what they do. A lot of what you find on the web is a joke and suggests running something like 50mpw. I also find that I can't match the tempo pace suggested for a 2:40 marathoner in other programs. I was more curious to hear what 2:37 marathoners do because there are certain levels of commitment and talent required. I was hoping to hear from an actual 2:37 marathon what he/she is able to run for pace. For example, a common marathon pace run is 10min easy followed by 10mi at tempo pace. I'd like to know what paces are run in this case. I'd also like a little history on people so I can find someone with similar abilities. Some people have natural speed and don't handle high mileage. Other people can't handle workouts and just pound the pavement endlessly. All this information would be helpful in giving me a better understanding of where I should be.

Thanks, but you don't have to be all philosophical here. It doesn't really help. I can make generalizations on my own. It's not that I can't calculate, it's that I don't want to. Thought it would be easier to just ask someone what they do. A lot of what you find on the web is a joke and suggests running something like 50mpw. I also find that I can't match the tempo pace suggested for a 2:40 marathoner in other programs. I was more curious to hear what 2:37 marathoners do because there are certain levels of commitment and talent required. I was hoping to hear from an actual 2:37 marathon what he/she is able to run for pace. For example, a common marathon pace run is 10min easy followed by 10mi at tempo pace. I'd like to know what paces are run in this case. I'd also like a little history on people so I can find someone with similar abilities. Some people have natural speed and don't handle high mileage. Other people can't handle workouts and just pound the pavement endlessly. All this information would be helpful in giving me a better understanding of where I should be.

to MyReallyGayGoal...thanks for bumping my post!

read above

MyGoal wrote:

Thanks, but you don't have to be all philosophical here. It doesn't really help.

Then you'll never fcuking get it, no matter what anyone might post here.

No problem. I don't know what came over me. Stupid as it is, I thought that was amazingly funny. Actually, I am still chuckling a bit. Stupid, huh? Also, I have some issues with people expecting others to do the work for them (as far as research is concerned), but I also understand what you are doing. And hey, you double posted first!

To Back in 1990,

I've basically been running 70-80mpw in 1 session per day for the last 3 months. In the past I also ran my 20milers too fast in about the same pace and I'm working on fixing that. My workouts have historically been more varied though and very little short (i.e. 200m) stuff. More like the 6xmile or 1000m variety. Thanks for the response. That's just the kind of story I was looking for.

Amazingly mature response MyGayGoal. Not expected based on your name. Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I'll take it.

Yeah, sorry about the double post. My finger spasmed and I double clicked the post message box. Suprising that it actually double posts when you do that.

And I know, I know, I'm being lazy, but that's what the internet is for. I also enjoy reading about other people's experiences.

searcher, perfect, thanks. I don't use letsrun much. I didn't know how to find this stuff.

That's right, you're too narcissistic to ever actually contribute. Go blog about THAT!

Quite a bold statement based on one line. Sorry, maybe I should give you a bit of background. I have popped on here periodically and provided some advice on injuries mostly, of which I've suffered many. I'd say a provide advice as much as I ask for it here. I just don't log in that much, too busy with other thanks normally. Today, though, yes, I'm 100% selfish. My post does not, in anyway, help anyone but myself.