Rim Rock Farm Course

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yea, hows the course there? thats where junior college nationals are gonna be held at. whats the area like to?

It's usually significantly slower than most courses. It's got rolling hills throughout the entire course and challenging. The scenery is great though from when I was there in 98 for D1 nationals. Great condition also. I think it should be used every few years as the site for nationals. However, the transportation and parking is bad. Two lane high ways and gravel roads to get there, it took 2 hours to get back into lawrence from the course, which is maybe 10 min away with no traffic. If you look at the results from Kansas' meet there this year at the beginning of the season, it looks like they ran about a minute slower than what they did at prenats. Granted it was also the first meet of the year, times tend to be slower.

Definitley a "true" cross country course. Course is always well maintained and in great shape, just lots of hills and turns. It's a fun course to run. The start is in a wide uphill sloping field. It quickly narrows to about 15 meters over the first 300 meters, FYI. With about 600 meters to go you crest a big hill to the top of a ridge. With 300 or so to go it is all downhill to the finish, which makes for some fast, exciting finishes. I would suggest even splits, otherwise the hills will swallow you up and spit you out. Time wise, I'd guess 5k would be about 30-45 seconds slower than an "average" course.

How does it compare in difficulty with the Oklahoma State Jamboree course?

whats the ground like? whats it consist of? grass, trail, pavement,etc.? thanks

Grass, some dirt

thanx....so what would you suggest, spikes or xc flats?

You'll want spikes.

I ran the course several times for KS State High School XC. The first mile-1.5 is light rolling hills, then you drop down a steep hill, then come back up it. Then a long down hill followed by a longer up hill. Chalanging, but not necissarily slow. Great footing. The farm, which is Owned by Bob Timens (spelling?), isn't used for much else. Almost all grass. Spikes would definately be helpful on the hills. Longer more gradual hills than Oklahoma St. course. Definately a truely testing course. Much better than the flat courses we see a lot of these days. Leave the flats for track season!!

Thanks. This is very helpful information.

Only one caution... if it is muddy, be careful with longer spikes. You cross a covered wooden bridge. Not a reaason to shorten the spikes, but definately warn your runners to be careful. You don't want them nailing themselves to the bridge!!

RunCoach - What junior college do you coach?

thanks all the background information on this course. would there happen to be any pictures of the the actual course? i got the course map on how it goes....but i'd like to see what it looks like.

......and yea runcoach...where do you coach at?

some pictures there and a description of the course terrain. if someone has a course map for the 8k and 5k for juco nationals, could you post a link?

5k...I've seen an 8k map online before but the page has been deleted. There's good arieal photos/maps near the finish/podium area.

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