Daniels' popularity outside the US

I've been coaching in the UK since 1992. Letsrun is the only place I've ever seen any reference to Daniels.

Can anyone post a good link to a summary of his theories?

Thanks.

Quite possibly it is the wholesale following of Daniel's that is keeping US middle distance up sh!! creek.

I'm in New Zealand - I think I first heard of Daniels from letsrun, but I also had his Running Formula book recommended to me by a Finnish guy who lives in New Zealand.

So he's not totally unknown in NZ, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that he was "popular". As you might expect, I'd say the Lydiard influence is stronger here.

The smart coaches from all over the world know of him. Don't doubt that for a second.

threadbear wrote:

I've been coaching in the UK since 1992. Letsrun is the only place I've ever seen any reference to Daniels.

Can anyone post a good link to a summary of his theories?

Thanks.

is a nice introduction and synopsis of the book "Daniels Running Formula". He's published many papers in the technical journals as well.

Bryan Nayrb wrote:

The smart coaches from all over the world know of him. Don't doubt that for a second.

you are right. the question by the OP shows that people generally limit themselves and stick with attitudes and theories they find comfortable rather than searching for new ideas and increasing their education.

reject him wrote:the wholesale following of Daniel's that is

"Daniels"

Citizen Runner wrote:

http://www.coacheseducation.com/endur/jack-daniels-june-00.htm

is a nice introduction and synopsis of the book "Daniels Running Formula". He's published many papers in the technical journals as well.

Thank you very much for the link - looks interesting - as does the rest of that site.

The Dictionary wrote:

reject him wrote:the wholesale following of Daniel's that is

"Daniels"

I want to hit you with a very large stick.

Hello,

well, in Germany (probably all German speaking european countries) he is quite unknown. Lydiard is a bit more popular but by far not as known as in the US.

Bye,

Sven

Sven, so who is more popular there?

Hey Sven:

Got any pics of genuine, hot German women?

SvenG wrote:

Hello,

well, in Germany (probably all German speaking european countries) he is quite unknown. Lydiard is a bit more popular but by far not as known as in the US.

Bye,

Sven

Hello,

He is quite well known among the German coaches I have business with.

Helmut

Helmut wrote:

SvenG wrote:

Hello,

well, in Germany (probably all German speaking european countries) he is quite unknown. Lydiard is a bit more popular but by far not as known as in the US.

Bye,

Sven

Hello,

He is quite well known among the German coaches I have business with.

Helmut

Hello,

I would say that is true in my experience as well.

Toodles,

Erich

He is well known to all uz germanz who at least understand written english! ;) But whenever one suggests e.g. on former laufen-aktuell to read his book one gets a bashing for "being so arrogant to acually suggest a non-german book".

reject him wrote:

Quite possibly it is the wholesale following of Daniel's that is keeping US middle distance up sh!! creek.

This is ridiculous. I assume that you're equating Daniels with an emphasis on interval training at the expense of volume and strength. This is a common misconception, because he is best known for work that focuses on determining proper pacing for various types of speedwork. This doesn't mean that he is the anti-Lydiard. If you look at some of his plans, they actually entail fairly high mileage.

Furthermore, if you're at a level where you would be moving beyond the volume advocated in the book, then you should also have a more nuanced understanding of training theory, and you shouldn't be following any book. If you talk to Daniels, you'll realize that he doesn't truly believe in universal plans that fit every runner. The book is something of an experiment, to see how well a few principles can guide a wide range of runners.