Stories?
Usually I imagine it's a situation of poor early coaching, but I am curious about whether there are any greats who did not show early talent?
Stories?
Usually I imagine it's a situation of poor early coaching, but I am curious about whether there are any greats who did not show early talent?
Bill Rodgers had a high school best of around 10:00 in the two mile. Same with Brian Sell. Frank Shorter ran the mile in around 4:30. Kyle Hefner ran the two mile in around 9:45 in high school and would run the marathon in 2:10.
Don't believe the hype, those are all good times. In 75% of states 4:30 and 10:00 will make you borderline all-state.
illiterate wrote:
Don't believe the hype, those are all good times. In 75% of states 4:30 and 10:00 will make you borderline all-state.
They're pretty good times for high school but they are not the kind of times people run who go onto 2:10 in the marathon.
I guess it depends how you define "bad" in H.S. and "good" as an elite then? What would your definitions be?
This kid hasn't done great things yet, but going from high 17s for 5K in high school to 46 minutes for 15k as a junior at a NAIA school isn't bad progress.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/10/sp-richmond-continues-to-advance/
illiterate wrote:
Don't believe the hype, those are all good times. In 75% of states 4:30 and 10:00 will make you borderline all-state.
i refuse to believe that
Austins Powers wrote:
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/10/sp-richmond-continues-to-advance/
WOW! That dude is amazing. How many more are there out there like him?
Pennsylvania produced the following two guys from HS class of '96.
Brian Sell: Olympian at Marathon now and 4:30, 9:50 then
James Carney: 27:43 10k now and 4:28, 9:51 then and he never qualified for the state championship XC meet
illiterate wrote:
Don't believe the hype, those are all good times. In 75% of states 4:30 and 10:00 will make you borderline all-state.
That's probably not that far off. If you take the "75% of statesI in question to be those ranked 13-50 in population (assuming that distance-talent depth and population are well correlated), you're left with only about 40% of the U.S. population.
Then again all-state could mean a lot of things. It may mean whatever the local newspapers decide and not what that state's athletic association chooses, because some probably don't. And even larger states that have many divisions based on school size probably give rise to "all-state" 4:30 milers and 10:00 deuce-bags.
Austins Powers wrote:
This kid hasn't done great things yet, but going from high 17s for 5K in high school to 46 minutes for 15k as a junior at a NAIA school isn't bad progress.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/10/sp-richmond-continues-to-advance/
Something tells me his high 17s for 5k were run off a regimen of tag in the woods with his team.
That being said, being a local Tampon myself, good on him for taking down Rolf and Tyrone.
Chris Derrick, 2nd place FLN, 1st place NTN.
19:13 5k pr as a freshman.
Thats a pretty big improvement in 3 years.
illiterate wrote:
Don't believe the hype, those are all good times. In 75% of states 4:30 and 10:00 will make you borderline all-state.
Not true, I ran a 9:46 and didn't even qualify for states. (Florida)