I keep thinking of the insane amount of resources poured into that group and a majority are overtrained/injured. Obiri and Nuguse are the outliers, but also just insanely talented. Why is OAC worth it to ON, why is Ritz?
I keep thinking of the insane amount of resources poured into that group and a majority are overtrained/injured. Obiri and Nuguse are the outliers, but also just insanely talented. Why is OAC worth it to ON, why is Ritz?
Ritz took a group that was starting from scratch and in year 1 had Olympians. Year 4 they have two Olympic bronze medals.
They are one of the most talked about groups. Great investment by On and gave them instant credibility. Hell before they got any medals in he NYTimes was saying they may be the best team in the world which was a pretty bad take but they are very good and relevant.
What do you want On to do ? Shutter its most successful group and have no medalists?
Weird take to go "sure they have two people doing well but those are outliers"
Lmao most well known professional teams don't have more than a few actual Olympic quality athletes despite working with a lot of people, this isn't unique to OAC
ON is a Swiss company building a global bizness. They are thrilled with the accomplishments of OAC and Ritz.
Their management has a 20-30 yr vision for this group. Imagine when Ritz is a wise old sage and this group has a long history and tradition to look back on.
I keep thinking of the insane amount of resources poured into that group and a majority are overtrained/injured. Obiri and Nuguse are the outliers, but also just insanely talented. Why is OAC worth it to ON, why is Ritz?
Ritz is a way better coach then you are giving credit for.
If anything your argument is better for why OAC and Ritz should move on from some of their athletes that aren't succeeding with the high level of coaching and support they are receiving. OAC may be loyal to a fault to the athletes that got in early.
I keep thinking of the insane amount of resources poured into that group and a majority are overtrained/injured. Obiri and Nuguse are the outliers, but also just insanely talented. Why is OAC worth it to ON, why is Ritz?
Based on your keen sense and objective reasoning, why is Mike Smith worth it? He has no olympic medalist, can't coach women to Championships and isn't even the top Coach Smith in the NCAA!
Beasts had a silver. Ben Thomas had a Gold (but he doesn't really count as a group), Sova doesn't have funding or a brand affiliation. Does Ed Eystone's BYU guys count?
So maybe just Brooks beasts was better than Ritz?
Maybe brands should be saucing money at these other coaches, but I think Ritz is number 2 of the actual pro groups. Bowerman didn't accomplish anything.
Ritz took a group that was starting from scratch and in year 1 had Olympians. Year 4 they have two Olympic bronze medals.
They are one of the most talked about groups. Great investment by On and gave them instant credibility. Hell before they got any medals in he NYTimes was saying they may be the best team in the world which was a pretty bad take but they are very good and relevant.
What do you want On to do ? Shutter its most successful group and have no medalists?
The Ritz haters are just jealous .
Jealous of WHAT! Watching runners keep getting injured? And btw it’s not to difficult to be an Olympian in a different country. Australia, Italy etc. and since when is The NY Times an expert on running to call them the great team. Let me guess- Ritz TOLD them they were. 😂😂
I keep thinking of the insane amount of resources poured into that group and a majority are overtrained/injured. Obiri and Nuguse are the outliers, but also just insanely talented. Why is OAC worth it to ON, why is Ritz?
Ritz has huge issues and knows very well that he ruined the majority of his team with injuries and burn out. Having said that OAC needs new blood desperately if they want to stay competitive. Get rid of deadbeats like Andrews, Morgan, Vissa who will never be up there in any major international competition. Same with Sage although at least she’s been improving a bit. He needs to recruit the stars from NCAA and preferably more Americans.
Yes, let’s ignore the common wealth games medal, national records, marathon major win, diamond league wins, sport promotion, etc…and focus on the failure of the olympics that still resulted in two medals.
I keep thinking of the insane amount of resources poured into that group and a majority are overtrained/injured. Obiri and Nuguse are the outliers, but also just insanely talented. Why is OAC worth it to ON, why is Ritz?
He took Nuguse from 3:34 in college to 3:27 bronze and 3:43 mile. Plus 7:28 indoor 3k American record and 347 indoor mile AR. that’s not nothing!
ollie also broke Oceania record in 1500 (3:29) and Beamish won indoor 1500 and holds NZ record in steeple.
Ritz has huge issues and knows very well that he ruined the majority of his team with injuries and burn out. Having said that OAC needs new blood desperately if they want to stay competitive. Get rid of deadbeats like Andrews, Morgan, Vissa who will never be up there in any major international competition. Same with Sage although at least she’s been improving a bit. He needs to recruit the stars from NCAA and preferably more Americans.
It's not an American team, it's a global team based in Boulder. Vissa not for USA, but for Italy. 60 million Italians to buy shoes. Look for an influx of even more foreigners.
Ritz took a group that was starting from scratch and in year 1 had Olympians. Year 4 they have two Olympic bronze medals.
They are one of the most talked about groups. Great investment by On and gave them instant credibility. Hell before they got any medals in he NYTimes was saying they may be the best team in the world which was a pretty bad take but they are very good and relevant.
What do you want On to do ? Shutter its most successful group and have no medalists?
The Ritz haters are just jealous .
Jealous of WHAT! Watching runners keep getting injured? And btw it’s not to difficult to be an Olympian in a different country. Australia, Italy etc. and since when is The NY Times an expert on running to call them the great team. Let me guess- Ritz TOLD them they were. 😂😂
Since when being an Olympian been so easy? The countries you mentioned is even harder since not only you have to be top 3 but also a federation has a saying.
If you created a poll asking NCAA distance folks if having an opportunity, would they join OAC, no doubt most would.
Jealous of WHAT! Watching runners keep getting injured? And btw it’s not to difficult to be an Olympian in a different country. Australia, Italy etc. and since when is The NY Times an expert on running to call them the great team. Let me guess- Ritz TOLD them they were. 😂😂
Since when being an Olympian been so easy? The countries you mentioned is even harder since not only you have to be top 3 but also a federation has a saying.
If you created a poll asking NCAA distance folks if having an opportunity, would they join OAC, no doubt most would.
Well Tuohy and Valby didn’t. And neither did Nico Young. Lots of mediocre runners would no doubt
I keep thinking of the insane amount of resources poured into that group and a majority are overtrained/injured. Obiri and Nuguse are the outliers, but also just insanely talented. Why is OAC worth it to ON, why is Ritz?
Ritz has huge issues and knows very well that he ruined the majority of his team with injuries and burn out. Having said that OAC needs new blood desperately if they want to stay competitive. Get rid of deadbeats like Andrews, Morgan, Vissa who will never be up there in any major international competition. Same with Sage although at least she’s been improving a bit. He needs to recruit the stars from NCAA and preferably more Americans.
What happened to McDonald? He used to crush fisher. Now, he just seems very unprofessional, and appears to be going out of his way to look dirty and homeless.