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Should USATF and/or Noah Lyles told the world before the race that Lyles was positive for Covid?

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    rojo

    Member since 07/09/2002.

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    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:23pm EDT

    Let's think this through here.

    3 years ago, we weren't allowed to go to Tokyo without multiple Covid free tests and once there we had to sign out of our hotel even if we left for 1 minute.

    Now, a guy can have a positive Covid-19 test and USATF doesn't even issue a press release so at least others could take precautions?

    I'm honestly not sure on the correct answer to this but it shows you how much has changed.

    I guess probably not, but if you've got no problem telling the world afterwards, then it's clear the only reason you didn't tell them before hand is you'd be afraid the IOC wouldn't let you compete.

    Thoughts?

  • A. Fauci

    Anonymous Poster

    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:24pm EDT
    re: rojo

    Nah, this has been pretty standard at these Olympics.

  • you're benevolent mini-brains

    Anonymous Poster

    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:24pm EDT
    re: rojo

    rojo wrote:

    Let's think this through here.

    Leave the thinking to people with brains.

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    RossiCheated

    Member since 06/14/2015.

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    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:24pm EDT
    re: rojo

    Do you know for a fact that they didn't?

    And do you know what the protocols are?

    My questions are not rhetorical. I have no idea.

  • just a dead gorilla

    Harambe

    Member since 08/11/2016.

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    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:25pm EDT
    re: rojo

    rojo wrote:

    Let's think this through here.

    3 years ago, we weren't allowed to go to Tokyo without multiple Covid free tests and once there we had to sign out of our hotel even if we left for 1 minute.

    Now, a guy can have a positive Covid-19 test and USATF doesn't even issue a press release so at least others could take precautions?

    I'm honestly not sure on the correct answer to this but it shows you how much has changed.

    I guess probably not, but if you've got no problem telling the world afterwards, then it's clear the only reason you didn't tell them before hand is you'd be afraid the IOC wouldn't let you compete.

    Thoughts?

    Amazing how safe and effective vaccines can dramatically change the relative risk of a disease!

    Congrats to Lyles for toughing it out.

  • As what?

    Anonymous Poster

    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:25pm EDT
    re: rojo

    "Should USATF and/or Noah Lyles told the world..."

    As what?

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    RAZ94

    Member since 03/11/2018.

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    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:25pm EDT
    re: rojo

    Damned if you do damned if you don't. Since he lost haters will use it as an excuse and will still clown him no matter what.

    From a policy perspective if you're gonna test and an athlete turns up positive why DONT you barr them from competing? At that point what's even the worth of testing?

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    toozy

    Member since 11/05/2019.

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    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:26pm EDT
    re: rojo

    Covid isn’t what it was - it’s not the same strain. People are going into work all the time with it nowadays.

  • As what?

    Anonymous Poster

    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:27pm EDT
    re: rojo

    rojo wrote:

    Let's think this through here.

    3 years ago, we weren't allowed to go to Tokyo without multiple Covid free tests and once there we had to sign out of our hotel even if we left for 1 minute.

    Now, a guy can have a positive Covid-19 test and USATF doesn't even issue a press release so at least others could take precautions?

    I'm honestly not sure on the correct answer to this but it shows you how much has changed.

    I guess probably not, but if you've got no problem telling the world afterwards, then it's clear the only reason you didn't tell them before hand is you'd be afraid the IOC wouldn't let you compete.

    Thoughts?

    Rojo I spent two seconds googling "Paris Olympics COVID Protocols."



    "Short answer: There are no formal or event-level requirements. How to handle the threat of the disease is decided by teams and individuals.
    si.com
    What Are COVID-19 Protocols at the Olympics in Paris?
    Noah Lyles reportedly ran the 200-meter final on Thursday after testing positive for COVID. He did not break any rules, and several athletes have competed despi
    Link:www.si.com/olympics/paris-olympics-cov...

    Unlike the two other games (Toyko 2020, Beijing 2022) that had extensive athlete testing and protocols for positive tests, the regulations and requirements around testing are much more relaxed.

    Athletes do not have to be subjected to mandatory regular testing and reporting. Furthermore, positive tests do not stipulate sitting out from events. Participation for positive athletes is at the discretion of the athlete, teams, and medical staff.
    Noah Lyles reportedly ran the 200-meter final on Thursday after testing positive for COVID. He did not break any rules, and several athletes have competed despite a positive test."

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  • As what?

    Anonymous Poster

    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:28pm EDT
    re: rojo

    today.com
    Is there a COVID outbreak at the Olympics? At least 40 athletes have tested positive
    TodayShow
    At least 40 athletes, including British swimmer Adam Peaty and Australian swimmer Lani Pallister, have tested positive for COVID-19. What safety protocols are at the Olympics?
    Link:www.today.com/health/coronavirus/covid...

    "At least 40 athletes competing at the 2024 Paris Summer Olympics — including swimmers from multiple countries and 16 athletes from Australia — have tested positive for COVID-19 in the last two weeks. The uptick in cases has raised questions around the measures in place to stop the spread of COVID at the Paris Olympics.

    This year's Games are considered the first post-pandemic Olympics. Unlike the postponed 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo, and the 2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing, there are no strict protocols or restrictions around COVID-19 in Paris."

  • As what?

    Anonymous Poster

    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:39pm EDT
    re: As what?

    As what? wrote:

    Link:www.today.com/health/coronavirus/covid...

    "At least 40 athletes competing at the 2024 Paris Summer Olympics — including swimmers from multiple countries and 16 athletes from Australia — have tested positive for COVID-19 in the last two weeks. The uptick in cases has raised questions around the measures in place to stop the spread of COVID at the Paris Olympics.

    This year's Games are considered the first post-pandemic Olympics. Unlike the postponed 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo, and the 2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing, there are no strict protocols or restrictions around COVID-19 in Paris."

    as rojo as these are the rules as are you listening

  • norges folk

    Anonymous Poster

    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:42pm EDT
    re: A. Fauci

    A. Fauci wrote:

    Nah, this has been pretty standard at these Olympics.

    you're spot on. what's covid when the triathletes are swimming in literal sewage?

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    Tommy2Nuttz

    Member since 08/07/2021.

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    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:43pm EDT
    re: rojo

    BBC is reporting he tested positive 2 days before.

    How was he allowed to run?

  • sanchobaile

    Member since 08/13/2003.

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    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:46pm EDT
    re: Tommy2Nuttz

    posted this on the daily thread but will add here as well:

    After the extremely covid-cautious Tokyo games and now this, makes me wonder if the answer for future Olympics to set policies somewhere in between.

    Maybe you don't forbid anyone from competing if they test positive like in Tokyo, but you do require athletes to test and quarantine. Not hard for superspreader events to happen, and they could totally ruin the competition. The way the US athletes are gathering and cheering on their teammates every night, you just need one superspreader event to make a big dent in your medal haul.

  • sanchobaile

    Member since 08/13/2003.

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    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:48pm EDT
    re: sanchobaile

    you could call it the Lyles rule. I think he did the right thing quarantining himself, at least. Did he need to tell the public? probably not. Did he need to tell any athletes he was in close contact with? maybe. But if everyone was testing and quarantining when necessary, that wouldn't be as much of an issue.

  • Doc Brown

    Anonymous Poster

    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:51pm EDT
    re: rojo

    Covid is now filed with Small Pox, Polio and AIDS: Just not a big deal any more. No one cares.

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    OlympicContest

    Member since 07/29/2024.

    66 posts. Last post 1 hour ago.
    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:54pm EDT
    re: rojo

    It messed up my bets, so yes I would have liked to have known.

  • rojo blojo

    Anonymous Poster

    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 3:58pm EDT
    re: rojo

    rojo wrote:

    Let's think this through here.

    3 years ago, we weren't allowed to go to Tokyo without multiple Covid free tests and once there we had to sign out of our hotel even if we left for 1 minute.

    Now, a guy can have a positive Covid-19 test and USATF doesn't even issue a press release so at least others could take precautions?

    I'm honestly not sure on the correct answer to this but it shows you how much has changed.

    I guess probably not, but if you've got no problem telling the world afterwards, then it's clear the only reason you didn't tell them before hand is you'd be afraid the IOC wouldn't let you compete.

    Thoughts?

    Yes, let's but unfortunately you did not.

  • We have enough Youth, What we need is a Fountain of Smart.

    Old Runner

    Member since 09/12/2007.

    479 posts. Last post 2 hours ago.
    2 hours ago 08/08/2024 4:12pm EDT
    re: rojo

    rojo wrote:

    Thoughts?

    Hey Rojo,

    Three years ago, we were still in a declared emergency. That declaration is no longer in place, and the pandemic is over. Just like the flu of 1917, COVID-19 is now basically just a cold. That being the case and there being no protocol for athletes to alert others to their issues (besides, here in the states that's private HIPPA info), I don't think Lyles had any reason nor responsibility to announce. This isn't 2020-21 anymore.

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