sorry for giant link 5th place in a big meet against some pretty fast guys, the time puts him #8 on the US all time list
I was really impressed that he was still glued to the leaders with 1k to go, and he didn’t really lose too much ground or get passed by anyone after that
its great to live in a time where the B tier Americans are able to compete at this level
I seem to remember McGorty having a knack to make USA teams
He has Olympic Standard in 5000 and was fifth I believe at trials. Not so much B team.
When I said B team I didn’t mean that as a derogatory statement, I just mean he is a guy who isn’t going to the Olympics and is clearly outclassed by the top US runners in every event he runs. He is great no doubt, but when I think of A tier I am thinking of Fisher, Kincaid, Hocker, Nuguse, Hoppel, etc. People who are consistently making their teams, not just people who could. Maybe McGorty is A tier and I am being unfair in my assessment, but even if he is he is borderline A tier at best
I seem to remember McGorty having a knack to make USA teams
He has Olympic Standard in 5000 and was fifth I believe at trials. Not so much B team.
When I said B team I didn’t mean that as a derogatory statement, I just mean he is a guy who isn’t going to the Olympics and is clearly outclassed by the top US runners in every event he runs. He is great no doubt, but when I think of A tier I am thinking of Fisher, Kincaid, Hocker, Nuguse, Hoppel, etc. People who are consistently making their teams, not just people who could. Maybe McGorty is A tier and I am being unfair in my assessment, but even if he is he is borderline A tier at best
Agree, 7:32 is fast no matter how you slice it. Solid performance. I hope he keeps getting in more DLs going forward
When I said B team I didn’t mean that as a derogatory statement, I just mean he is a guy who isn’t going to the Olympics and is clearly outclassed by the top US runners in every event he runs. He is great no doubt, but when I think of A tier I am thinking of Fisher, Kincaid, Hocker, Nuguse, Hoppel, etc. People who are consistently making their teams, not just people who could. Maybe McGorty is A tier and I am being unfair in my assessment, but even if he is he is borderline A tier at best
No, you are being fair.
Sean would be "A" tier. Would be.
However, at age 29, he still hasn't figured out how to stay healthy for a full season.
First it was Achilles/heel surgeries, then bone infections, and now for the past couple years, stress fractures.
You can say it's on Jerry, but at some point the athlete has to take the initiative and institute changes necessary to stay healthy. Even if it means leaving for a new living/training environment a la Woody, Grant and Elise.
Despite another setback this winter, Sean has already set 1500 & 3000 prs and will likely set a mile pr next week at the British Milers Club meet or the week following at Sir Walter Miler. Then, would not be surprised at all to see him get into a fast 5k post-Paris and break 13.
However, likely Sean has only 2-3 years left as a potential "A" list track athlete. He has to stay healthy from fall practice through next summer's racing to reach his potential as a world class 5k runner who could advanced to the final in Tokyo and at least be competitive for a medal.
Otherwise, Grant and the young guys like Nur, Wolfe, Young, Blanks, Jacobs will continue to slam the door on him making national teams like they did this year.
sorry for giant link 5th place in a big meet against some pretty fast guys, the time puts him #8 on the US all time list
I was really impressed that he was still glued to the leaders with 1k to go, and he didn’t really lose too much ground or get passed by anyone after that
its great to live in a time where the B tier Americans are able to compete at this level
Let me be the first to NOT congratulate him on his also-ran effort.
He should be running marathons. We almost couldn't qualify 3 runners for Paris.
He is not competitive on the track. He was over 5 seconds back and at age 29 he's not going to get better. I mean what are you even doing. We don't need more 30-year-old G-leaguers getting owned on the track.
Let me be the first to NOT congratulate him on his also-ran effort.
He should be running marathons. We almost couldn't qualify 3 runners for Paris.
He is not competitive on the track. He was over 5 seconds back and at age 29 he's not going to get better. I mean what are you even doing. We don't need more 30-year-old G-leaguers getting owned on the track.
He runs 3:33, 13:02, and 27:18.
He is much stronger in the 5K than the 10K, and arguably stronger in the 1500 in the 10K.
I agree that the USA needs to be developing better marathoners at a younger age.
But you've gone absolutely crazy if you think McGorty is a marathoner. Absolutely crazy. He'd be better at the 800 than the marathon.
Also, the turn doesn't usually work out well for the runner in question. Chelimo tried it, failed, and then had his worst track season ever as a result.
Let me be the first to NOT congratulate him on his also-ran effort.
He should be running marathons. We almost couldn't qualify 3 runners for Paris.
He is not competitive on the track. He was over 5 seconds back and at age 29 he's not going to get better. I mean what are you even doing. We don't need more 30-year-old G-leaguers getting owned on the track.
He runs 3:33, 13:02, and 27:18.
He is much stronger in the 5K than the 10K, and arguably stronger in the 1500 in the 10K.
I agree that the USA needs to be developing better marathoners at a younger age.
But you've gone absolutely crazy if you think McGorty is a marathoner. Absolutely crazy. He'd be better at the 800 than the marathon.
Also, the turn doesn't usually work out well for the runner in question. Chelimo tried it, failed, and then had his worst track season ever as a result.
Those times aren't competitive. Especially in the supershoe age. That would be like 3:35, 13:10, 27:33 pre-supershoes (just for context because everyone's perspective on times is still warped).
He could at least do the steeple. At least. But he is wasting his time on the track.
He is much stronger in the 5K than the 10K, and arguably stronger in the 1500 in the 10K.
I agree that the USA needs to be developing better marathoners at a younger age.
But you've gone absolutely crazy if you think McGorty is a marathoner. Absolutely crazy. He'd be better at the 800 than the marathon.
Also, the turn doesn't usually work out well for the runner in question. Chelimo tried it, failed, and then had his worst track season ever as a result.
Those times aren't competitive. Especially in the supershoe age. That would be like 3:35, 13:10, 27:33 pre-supershoes (just for context because everyone's perspective on times is still warped).
He could at least do the steeple. At least. But he is wasting his time on the track.
Why would you compare a non super show conversion to the rest of the world in super shoes? What on earth are you babbling about?
However, at age 29, he still hasn't figured out how to stay healthy for a full season.
First it was Achilles/heel surgeries, then bone infections, and now for the past couple years, stress fractures.
You can say it's on Jerry, but at some point the athlete has to take the initiative and institute changes necessary to stay healthy. Even if it means leaving for a new living/training environment a la Woody, Grant and Elise.
Despite another setback this winter, Sean has already set 1500 & 3000 prs and will likely set a mile pr next week at the British Milers Club meet or the week following at Sir Walter Miler. Then, would not be surprised at all to see him get into a fast 5k post-Paris and break 13.
However, likely Sean has only 2-3 years left as a potential "A" list track athlete. He has to stay healthy from fall practice through next summer's racing to reach his potential as a world class 5k runner who could advanced to the final in Tokyo and at least be competitive for a medal.
Otherwise, Grant and the young guys like Nur, Wolfe, Young, Blanks, Jacobs will continue to slam the door on him making national teams like they did this year.
I tend to agree with you. He’s good but injuries seem to hold him back. He’s kinda in the Schweizer zone except unlucky for him the men’s side is deeper with the guys you mention. You honestly can toss Drew Hunter in the mix with his 10K and 3:33 yesterday. Only Fisher is probably good enough to make teams with an abbreviated build-up. Everyone else at least has to be at 90-95%
Those times aren't competitive. Especially in the supershoe age. That would be like 3:35, 13:10, 27:33 pre-supershoes (just for context because everyone's perspective on times is still warped).
He could at least do the steeple. At least. But he is wasting his time on the track.
He's made Team USA (the hardest Non-African team in the world to make) for a major championship on three occasions.
He chose not to contest the 10K this year, which was pretty baffling, as that 3rd spot seemed like a very likely possibility for him.
If McGorty should be a steepler, than so should Klecker and even Kincaid, they've accomplished very similar things in terms of global success.
Not every runner has to be the best in the world or switch events.
He reminds me a bit of BTC guys like Ryan Hill (7:30), a little bit off the podium at trials usually but some teams. He's now 8th American, I think, behind Fisher 7:25, Nuguse 7:28, Lagat 7:29, Rupp, Bob Kennedy, Ryan Hill 7:30, and Paul Chelimo 7:31.