She seems to have literally zero leg speed but can run at such a high % of it for a long time.
Her leg speed is ok. It's her foot speed that is lacking. I think she has enough leg speed to get under 60 despite her lack of pure foot speed.
Her foot speed is OK, as is her leg speed. It’s her ankle speed that is lacking. I think she has enough leg speed and foot speed to get under 60 despite her lack of pure ankle speed.
Also to answer the question: probably 58 or 59. If she can run a 4:30 mile (65s pace), she can run sub-60.
What are you yapping about???
First of all, her mile PR is a 4:50. She can definetely go faster than that, but 4:30 is a bold assumption out of thin air, I'd pin her at 4:34-4:35ish, especially as she is a strength runner (note small difference between mile pace in 5K and 3K pr
Second of all, 4:30 is 67's. There's no arguing that. 65's is a 4:21.6. Which Valby definetely cannot run.
Lastly, no real correlation between mile PR and abilities in the 400. Especially in college/HS you can see 4:20-8:59-14:30 guys that can't break 60, and you can see 1:54-4:20-9:30 guys that can split a 52.
Also to answer the question: probably 58 or 59. If she can run a 4:30 mile (65s pace), she can run sub-60.
What are you yapping about???
First of all, her mile PR is a 4:50. She can definetely go faster than that, but 4:30 is a bold assumption out of thin air, I'd pin her at 4:34-4:35ish, especially as she is a strength runner (note small difference between mile pace in 5K and 3K pr
Second of all, 4:30 is 67's. There's no arguing that. 65's is a 4:21.6. Which Valby definetely cannot run.
Lastly, no real correlation between mile PR and abilities in the 400. Especially in college/HS you can see 4:20-8:59-14:30 guys that can't break 60, and you can see 1:54-4:20-9:30 guys that can split a 52.
"No real correlation between mile PR and abilities in the 400"?? Umm, dude, no. Of course there's a correlation. Case in point: if you can't run a 60-second 400, you're not breaking 4:00 for the mile.
How about some examples of 4:20-8:59-14:30 guys who can't break 60? Obviously this is hypothetically possible, but this type of stuff has become an urban legend. In other words, it's BS. Anyone who can run those times can eke out at least a 59.9, which isn't exactly barn-burning.
Also to answer the question: probably 58 or 59. If she can run a 4:30 mile (65s pace), she can run sub-60.
What are you yapping about???
First of all, her mile PR is a 4:50. She can definetely go faster than that, but 4:30 is a bold assumption out of thin air, I'd pin her at 4:34-4:35ish, especially as she is a strength runner (note small difference between mile pace in 5K and 3K pr
Second of all, 4:30 is 67's. There's no arguing that. 65's is a 4:21.6. Which Valby definetely cannot run.
Lastly, no real correlation between mile PR and abilities in the 400. Especially in college/HS you can see 4:20-8:59-14:30 guys that can't break 60, and you can see 1:54-4:20-9:30 guys that can split a 52.
Yah, my math was wrong, 67.5s for 4:30 is correct.
That being said, she has finished races in 66s before and several times has run her final mile for 5000m & 10000m races in sub-4:40. Additionally, her indoor season had her running a 4:31 1600 leg for the DMR back in February.
So to answer your question, a 4:30 mile on an outdoor track is hardly a 'bold assumption out of thin air.'
(And it is extremely unlikely a 4:20 guy cannot break 60 in the 400.)
"No real correlation between mile PR and abilities in the 400"?? Umm, dude, no. Of course there's a correlation. Case in point: if you can't run a 60-second 400, you're not breaking 4:00 for the mile.
How about some examples of 4:20-8:59-14:30 guys who can't break 60? Obviously this is hypothetically possible, but this type of stuff has become an urban legend. In other words, it's BS. Anyone who can run those times can eke out at least a 59.9, which isn't exactly barn-burning.
I was a 2:05ish, 4:20-8:58 guy who could split low 59's but likely could not break 60 on an open four.
I can think of at least five guys I raced against or with who had similar situations. I do not live in a big state. It's fairly common.
"No real correlation between mile PR and abilities in the 400"?? Umm, dude, no. Of course there's a correlation. Case in point: if you can't run a 60-second 400, you're not breaking 4:00 for the mile.
How about some examples of 4:20-8:59-14:30 guys who can't break 60? Obviously this is hypothetically possible, but this type of stuff has become an urban legend. In other words, it's BS. Anyone who can run those times can eke out at least a 59.9, which isn't exactly barn-burning.
I was a 2:05ish, 4:20-8:58 guy who could split low 59's but likely could not break 60 on an open four.
I can think of at least five guys I raced against or with who had similar situations. I do not live in a big state. It's fairly common.
You could run a 4:20 mile but not get under 59? BS. Maybe you were afraid of short-term explosive pain—there's no way your body wasn't capable of running like 55 at the slowest.
"No real correlation between mile PR and abilities in the 400"?? Umm, dude, no. Of course there's a correlation. Case in point: if you can't run a 60-second 400, you're not breaking 4:00 for the mile.
How about some examples of 4:20-8:59-14:30 guys who can't break 60? Obviously this is hypothetically possible, but this type of stuff has become an urban legend. In other words, it's BS. Anyone who can run those times can eke out at least a 59.9, which isn't exactly barn-burning.
I was a 2:05ish, 4:20-8:58 guy who could split low 59's but likely could not break 60 on an open four.
I can think of at least five guys I raced against or with who had similar situations. I do not live in a big state. It's fairly common.
That’s weird. I was a mediocre 4:57 miler and even I managed a 57.
"No real correlation between mile PR and abilities in the 400"?? Umm, dude, no. Of course there's a correlation. Case in point: if you can't run a 60-second 400, you're not breaking 4:00 for the mile.
How about some examples of 4:20-8:59-14:30 guys who can't break 60? Obviously this is hypothetically possible, but this type of stuff has become an urban legend. In other words, it's BS. Anyone who can run those times can eke out at least a 59.9, which isn't exactly barn-burning.
I was a 2:05ish, 4:20-8:58 guy who could split low 59's but likely could not break 60 on an open four.
I can think of at least five guys I raced against or with who had similar situations. I do not live in a big state. It's fairly common.
Number of people who believe your story: Most likely zero….
I have no doubt she could run high 4:20s for a mile if she paced it right. But' I'd guess not much under 60 for a 400 though. 18 months ago when she was in 8:50 shape she split 31/32 for 63 to start a 1600 m DMR leg and it gassed her badly to the point she "limped" home in 4:35 or 4:36.