Actual snipers (including a Congressman) think it was an inside job

Don't ascribe to malice that which can be attributed to incompetence.

"Malice or massive incompetence." - Erik Prince

Hard to believe any level of professional law enforcement would allow a 20-year-old kid with a long rifle to wander around, climb onto a roof 130 yards away in plain view of the stage, and fail to communicate the obvious threat prior to shots fired.

Read/listen to all four snipers. Each of them knows far more than anyone here.

Not an "easy" shot at all.

Having fired M4s many times in the military and in Iraq, I can attest that there is a huge difference between shooting at a paper target or little green plastic man on a range and shooting at a human being. Heart is racing, palms are sweaty, breathing is difficult to control, your heartbeat is pounding in your ears, adrenaline pumping. Now magnify this 100x when you are shooting at a former President in front of thousands of people with counter snipers in sight, knowing you are about to be shot to death as soon as you take the shot (if not before). There is no evidence that this guy was a great shot in the first place.

Sure, 130 yards on a range is very easy; the shot becomes MUCH tougher given the shooting conditions.

One of your sources blatantly says it was bad shooting and incompetence

Congressman Cory Mills addressed this exact point. He said he could teach any amateur to hit that shot 9 out of 10 times with five minutes of training.

Mills knows more than you.

If I understand correctly. At these events the secret service leaves securing outside the venue and nearby buildings and structures to local law enforcement.

Local law enforcement is only as good as local law enforcement. And many times that is pretty bad.

The snipers are correct. The Biden administration was clearly in on it. They ordered the cops to work with the shooter to get the best shot. The problem is Biden is now immune from being charged for attempted murder. He could keep trying this throughout the rest of the campaign.

Yeah, it’s incredibly easy to keep a secret of this magnitude.

And I’msure you would have considered it irresponsible to post this bit of speculation if you hadn’t first seen compelling evidence that every single one of those “cops,” was a die-hard Biden loyalist psychologically vetted as one certain not to crack, especially given the percent of police officers who are ardently politically Left.

That's the point. It was such an easy shot that the secret service should 100% have had that location on lock down hours before.

The theory is the secret service let him get a shot off because they hate Trump, and then they would immediately fire back so it didn't look like a setup.

Inside job

Staged

Incompetent shooter/patsy

Any of these professional snipers would also tell you that a true pro would have gotten a clean kill from that range or would have picked a better concealed sniper's nest much further away to avoid detection and to permit an escape.

You really need to reword that post. We can kind of tell what you're getting at, but it's so poorly drafted that you point is mostly lost. Plus, you look semi-literate so people take that into account too.

A few counterpoints ... First, claiming something *must be true* because there is no other explanation is lazy and lacks rigor. If you are going to claim something extraordinary, you need have at least a shred of proof (i.e., it was an inside job). I don't see anyone offering any proof of that, only claiming that the apparent incompetence/mistakes are the supposed proof; they are not proof of anything other than a breakdown in the system to protect trump. If the breakdown in protocol was an inside job, fine. Show me the proof that someone didn't do their job *on purpose*.

Second, all of these sniper experts make it sound like hitting the target is sooo easy. It's like an olympic 10k runner going on about how easy it is to jog a 60s quarter around the local track. Their perspective is skewed by their expertise. Of course for someone who has years of practice or has been through basic training or whatever is likely to make the shot. But if this kid took his dad's gun the day before, let's maybe consider that, just maybe, his shooting skills are sub-par. It's not like he's been seen at the shooting range practicing.

Lastly, when your supposed experts are claiming things like this was caused by DEI, that's partisan, dog-whistle stuff. Your objectivity is compromised when you interject that into your argument.

That's the point, this amateur wasn't taught by anyone. Find me some proof that the kid regularly went to a shooting range and had a lot of practice. I wouldn't be shocked if he had only shot that gun a couple times before, less than 20 shots in his entire life.

Also, is OP suggesting that he purposely missed? So now we're saying he purposely aimed for and hit Trump's ear? That's a heck of a shot, zero room for error as another inch to the right and Trump would have been dead.

obviously the USSS understands, as this combat vet does, that no way could any civilian handle a 130 yard shot at an actual POTUS.

That's why not shooting him first was the right call. 99% sure he would have missed. Hell, he did miss! Mostly. Get off their backs.

Just watch out for that Canadian longest-kill guy. How far was that? What other buildings were within that radius? This could get expensive to deal with.

first, the shooter was a conservative apparently really into guns. quit trying to make this into a liberal thing. eat your own vegetables. once the facts began getting investigated i began thinking "political violence" needed to be stowed as it ignores the "hinckley"/"fromme" potential. aren't you the "some of these shooters are crazy" folks?

second, the shooter has been described as someone who tried out for the school rifle team and was cut, didn't even make JV due to safety and accuracy concerns. so factor that into your "competent shooter would have....." analysis.

third, in terms of "competent shooter," my understanding is locals saw the shooter, at least one local PD was on the roof confronting the suspect, who turned around at the PD, who dropped to the roof, then shooter turned back to the target for a rushed shot before either PD or secret service can get him. he gets off the rushed shot but wings his target. he's no longer taking a calm shot. secret service then snipes him before he can settle and reaim.

fourth, i think secret service botched this and/or is insufficiently integrated with local PD to have full situational awareness. all i have ever heard is how they take over some wide radius and block everything off. then have snipers looking for precisely this scenario. how do you get on a nearby rooftop unseen? to me it's maybe this is the first time the contingency ever happened. so you're a counter-sniper but 99.99% of the time it's nothing doing. like a cop who has been on the streets for 15 years but never fired their gun off a target range. maybe takes a second to activate their training. or they freeze.

i mean, as a soccer player, having a chance on goal shouldn't be any different than warmup practice, place your chance in the edges of the goal, and yet only so many players can chill out and do the skills like it's the case. a lot of folks tend to throw power behind it and whack it way over. there's practice and there's real.

last, the "official duties" immunity decision is a horribly thought out joke that only encourages this sort of conspiracy thinking. by this argument bribery is always an official act because you usually have the authority to do x that you are being paid for. even if the constitution lists bribery as an impeachable offence. running for office is not an official duty -- does RFK get immunity? trump is asking for immunity for stuff he did running for an office he lost. how is that part of his existing job. in some states it's a crime to electioneer from your office or your office phone. we have the hatch act federally where you're not supposed to electioneer on official business.

ironically, having sent scotus the immunity issue what that got dismissed on was something else.

Some MK Ultra stuff?

you're having snipers assuming it's another sniper and not the equivalent of a weekend warrior with a fraction of their competence.