Can we talk about how crazy hard this Olympic marathon course is?

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  • Dudewhat?

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 10:05am EDT

    1400 ft+ total elevation gain with max gradient of 13.5%. Then just as much descending to chop up those quads. Seems complete opposite of all those super fast 2:01-2:04 type courses the Africans normally race on.

    This smells a lot like Athens 2004 (which had less total elevation gain than this race but was the hottest marathon ever at 86 °F).

    All you need now is a heat wave to spice things up and really opens the door for some underdogs to steal the show. I predict this will be the event of the games.

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    Manbearpig15

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 10:16am EDT
    re: Dudewhat?

    Most of the top contenders will drop out by 30k to preserve themselves for a pay day at a fall marathon. We'll be left with an underwhelming winner.

  • univarse

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 10:16am EDT
    re: Dudewhat?


    Basically one long hill from 15k-20+k, then another steeper but shorter one at 28K (that is followed by a long downhill). Looks like an awesome course to me.
    olympics.com
    Paris 2024 - Olympic marathon route
    Scheduled for 10 August 2024 for the men’s event and the following day for the women’s race, the Paris 2024 Olympic marathon will follow a unique route.
    Link:olympics.com/en/paris-2024/information...

  • Rode to Paris

    Anonymous Poster

    2 days ago 07/11/2024 10:18am EDT
    re: Dudewhat?

    Sounds awesome. We need more of this.

  • Yes USA!

    Anonymous Poster

    2 days ago 07/11/2024 10:19am EDT
    re: Manbearpig15

    We'll be left with an underwhelming winner.

    So USA in the mix?

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    Manbearpig15

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 10:21am EDT
    re: Yes USA!

    Yes USA! wrote:

    We'll be left with an underwhelming winner.

    So USA in the mix?

    As I was typing that I was thinking that means Mantz is a contender.

  • I seent it

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 10:23am EDT
    re: Manbearpig15

    Manbearpig15 wrote:

    Most of the top contenders will drop out by 30k to preserve themselves for a pay day at a fall marathon. We'll be left with an underwhelming winner.

    Bekele will probably be the only Ethiopian to finish. We certainly know that kipchoge can’t handle a non time trial course- maybe all Kenyans dnf?

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    Manbearpig15

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 10:26am EDT
    re: I seent it

    I seent it wrote:

    Manbearpig15 wrote:

    Most of the top contenders will drop out by 30k to preserve themselves for a pay day at a fall marathon. We'll be left with an underwhelming winner.

    Bekele will probably be the only Ethiopian to finish. We certainly know that kipchoge can’t handle a non time trial course- maybe all Kenyans dnf?

    I think Kipchoge is cooked in this one. I would be ok with a Bekele win/medal while beating Kipchoge in what is probably their final battle.

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    my two pennies

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 10:29am EDT
    re: Manbearpig15

    Manbearpig15 wrote:

    Yes USA! wrote:

    So USA in the mix?

    As I was typing that I was thinking that means Mantz is a contender.

    Mantz is probably the only guy who could still run a PB on a course like that. Betting the winning time will be 2:08 to 2:10. Definitely a medal threat. Would be pretty funny tbh.

  • Goldilocks

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 10:29am EDT
    re: Manbearpig15

    Manbearpig15 wrote:

    Most of the top contenders will drop out by 30k to preserve themselves for a pay day at a fall marathon. We'll be left with an underwhelming winner.

    Instead of an underwhelming winner or overwhelming favorite, I’d like to just see a plain old whelming gold medalist.

  • PCRF-Guy

    Member since 10/08/2021.

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 10:35am EDT
    re: Goldilocks

    Goldilocks wrote:

    Manbearpig15 wrote:

    Most of the top contenders will drop out by 30k to preserve themselves for a pay day at a fall marathon. We'll be left with an underwhelming winner.

    Instead of an underwhelming winner or overwhelming favorite, I’d like to just see a plain old whelming gold medalist.

    Would it be underwhelming if the winning time is 2:12 and the top five finishers on the men’s side are within 2 min of each other? Or 2:30 in the women’s with the same late race competition? I’d rather watch the competitors fighting for position in a tactical race. That’s one thing that’s unique about the Olympics.

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    Manbearpig15

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 10:52am EDT
    re: PCRF-Guy

    PCRF-Guy wrote:

    Goldilocks wrote:

    Instead of an underwhelming winner or overwhelming favorite, I’d like to just see a plain old whelming gold medalist.

    Would it be underwhelming if the winning time is 2:12 and the top five finishers on the men’s side are within 2 min of each other? Or 2:30 in the women’s with the same late race competition? I’d rather watch the competitors fighting for position in a tactical race. That’s one thing that’s unique about the Olympics.

    Give me a Wanjiru 2008 Olympics marathon. I watched that whole race waiting for the implosion that never happened.

    Barcelona 1992 had a great men's race for first and second on a fairly tough course on a hot day.

    Underwhelming would be something like the Atlanta 1996 men's race. Random South African guy winning.

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    GreatDane

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 11:00am EDT
    re: Dudewhat?

    Dudewhat? wrote:

    1400 ft+ total elevation gain with max gradient of 13.5%. Then just as much descending to chop up those quads. Seems complete opposite of all those super fast 2:01-2:04 type courses the Africans normally race on.

    This smells a lot like Athens 2004 (which had less total elevation gain than this race but was the hottest marathon ever at 86 °F).

    All you need now is a heat wave to spice things up and really opens the door for some underdogs to steal the show. I predict this will be the event of the games.

    If there was a road mountain running champs this would be it. Kilian Jornet should be entered

    This post was edited 2 minutes after it was posted.

  • Realistically Speaking

    Anonymous Poster

    2 days ago 07/11/2024 11:25am EDT
    re: Yes USA!

    Yes USA! wrote:

    So USA in the mix?

    A USA male in the top ten should be considered a huge success.

    In the mix for a medal? No.

  • Is Marathon

    Anonymous Poster

    2 days ago 07/11/2024 11:38am EDT
    re: Realistically Speaking

    I’m old enough to remember when the entire US distance running community was crying that running a flat Florida course at 75 degrees was cruel and unusual punishment to Americas trial runners.

  • Ruppattack

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 11:40am EDT
    re: Dudewhat?

    Rupp will pop a 2:06

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    YersiniaPestis

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    2 days ago 07/11/2024 11:42am EDT
    re: PCRF-Guy

    PCRF-Guy wrote:

    Goldilocks wrote:

    Instead of an underwhelming winner or overwhelming favorite, I’d like to just see a plain old whelming gold medalist.

    Would it be underwhelming if the winning time is 2:12 and the top five finishers on the men’s side are within 2 min of each other? Or 2:30 in the women’s with the same late race competition? I’d rather watch the competitors fighting for position in a tactical race. That’s one thing that’s unique about the Olympics.

    No because it's the freakin' Olympics and you run what it takes to WIN. My god you people that think it's a TT.

    When it comes to championship competition on any level the goal is to WIN. Time is secondary.

  • Art Vandelay the fake one

    Anonymous Poster

    2 days ago 07/11/2024 11:42am EDT
    re: Dudewhat?

    Some of you should learn to appreciate watching an actual race instead of a time trial.

  • Its the Olympics

    Anonymous Poster

    2 days ago 07/11/2024 11:51am EDT
    re: Manbearpig15

    Manbearpig15 wrote:

    Most of the top contenders will drop out by 30k to preserve themselves for a pay day at a fall marathon. We'll be left with an underwhelming winner.

    No, they won’t drop out. The pace is likely to be a 63-64 effort for the half, and all of those 2:02/2:03 guys will be ready to hammer the last 10K.

    The Olympics are still a big deal. The winner will be remembered in history, while whoever wins in a given year, in Boston, Berlin or London, will not.

  • Marathon course video

    Anonymous Poster

    2 days ago 07/11/2024 11:55am EDT
    re: Dudewhat?

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    Marathon course at the Games of the XXXIII Olympiad Paris 2024 Marathon
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    The course of the Games of the XXXIII Olympiad Paris 2024 Marathon is introduced by creating a video using Google Earth (Pro & Studio).The 2024 Summer Olympi...
    Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tEOsyJ1kHU&ab...

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