I hope this fires up the American athletes. ESP has a superior 3000m by 4 seconds (8:20 vs 8:24) and almost identical PRs before today (3:55.99 vs 3:55.97.) Hiltz, Mackay, and ESP should be able to look at this and think it's possible for them too.
Also: Yes, it's the shoes obviously. Probably 4 seconds for a women's 1500m.
What in the world was that?? Everyone has had supershoes for 5 years now, those don't explain year-to-year drops of this magnitude anymore, much less month-to-month. Is she just coming along at the right time?
Also since I'm an American so I view everything through that lens: she was giving ESP all she could handle earlier this year, and ESP just frontran a 3:55 after 2 5ks and 2 1500s. Is she ready to drop something like a 3:51? I was really hoping she'd be competing for a medal this year, but now there are 4 women between 3:49.0 and 3:50.9 and ESP isn't one of them. Hull is certainly a medal favorite after that race. I was hoping ESP would be in contention too, but Kipyegon was so far behind those pacers that she wasn't getting any drafting benefits, and she still crushed Hull that last 200m and almost ran a 3:48.
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I hope this fires up the American athletes. ESP has a superior 3000m by 4 seconds (8:20 vs 8:24) and almost identical PRs before today (3:55.99 vs 3:55.97.) Hiltz, Mackay, and ESP should be able to look at this and think it's possible for them too.
Also: Yes, it's the shoes obviously. Probably 4 seconds for a women's 1500m.
I doubt it’s quite 4 seconds. Maybe 2. The biggest help to Hull today is she was able to run on the rail directly behind Kipyegon for over 1,000m and draw a line on her through the last lap, a perfect time trial that’s very hard to find. Of course, you have to be in incredible shape to survive it like she did.
What in the world was that?? Everyone has had supershoes for 5 years now, those don't explain year-to-year drops of this magnitude anymore, much less month-to-month. Is she just coming along at the right time?
Also since I'm an American so I view everything through that lens: she was giving ESP all she could handle earlier this year, and ESP just frontran a 3:55 after 2 5ks and 2 1500s. Is she ready to drop something like a 3:51? I was really hoping she'd be competing for a medal this year, but now there are 4 women between 3:49.0 and 3:50.9 and ESP isn't one of them. Hull is certainly a medal favorite after that race. I was hoping ESP would be in contention too, but Kipyegon was so far behind those pacers that she wasn't getting any drafting benefits, and she still crushed Hull that last 200m and almost ran a 3:48.
If the fourth person ur referring to is Hassan, her PB is 3:51.9 not 3:50. and that's from when she was in peak shape
What in the world was that?? Everyone has had supershoes for 5 years now, those don't explain year-to-year drops of this magnitude anymore, much less month-to-month. Is she just coming along at the right time?
Shoe technology hasn't just stopped improving. Every new update takes off a fraction more of time.
At this pace, in a few years with the shoes, we'll likely see women's first sub-4 mile.
Agreed. Kipyegon also didn't get any of the drafting benefit that Hull did. I was surprised at how confident she did it tbh. She immediately tucked in and stuck there as long as she could, on a pace 5s faster than her PB. Wonder if Muir is regretting not doing that considering she was 3s faster than everyone else. Probably not coming 2nd, but may have gotten tugged to a 3:51-2 or something.
Kipyegon’s wr thread is all doping this and doping that but hull gets nothing but praise….
Cause Hull is white and Kipyegon is not. /j(somewhat)
It is a little unclear why no one thinks that. She only went a second faster and it was in the same race. I would also say this is less impressive than her previous record because she had someone close to push her.
She just annihilated the CWR. Light years ahead of Muir's 3:54.50. Insane. Will be rooting for her in Paris.
What does this even mean? I totally understand making a distinction of performances from the fast Soviet times in the 80s (state run doping), the 90s Ma Junren athletes (several of his athletes went on to test positive), and Genzebe Dibaba (record set while coached by Jama Aden), but how is Jessica Hull less suspicious than Sifan Hassan or Faith Kipyegon? Both Hassan and Hull spent time with the Nike Oregon Project and Kipyegon’s progression is arguable more consistent than Hull’s. I don’t think it is fair to assume anything about Hull based on her time/progression, but I would say the same for Kipyegon and Hassan. Of the three, Kipyegon has fairly even progression and has not been apart of any suspicious training group.