The 800m has suddenly got exciting again!
We merged three threads into 1 but kept the title of the thread started by site co-founder Robert Johnson as he has dicatorial powers here.
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Truly, a travesty.
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Are you serious ?!
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1:41.56 - Sedjatp
1:41.58 - Wanyoni
1:41.61 - TualTual's pb was 1:43.99 going in.
6th place was 1:42.43!!
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GreatDane wrote:
The 800m has suddenly got exciting again!
That's 2 1:41's back to back for Wanyoni.
He went out about .25 second too fast.
He has the tools to the get the WR.
Sedjati we know has the best kick.
Hoppel and Arop need to get in these races.
Hoppel would have run 1:41 today.
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Damn! Hopple needs to bring his A+ game to compete with that
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Hopefully they all peaked too early or are off-cycle by the time Paris comes. Hoppel is a smart racer and he might still sneak in the bronze, but I feel like the top guys are all mid-high 1:41s
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rojo wrote:
1:41.56 - Sedjatp
1:41.58 - Wanyoni
1:41.61 - TualTual's pb was 1:43.99 going in.
6th place was 1:42.43!!
Whats the problem?
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rojo wrote:
1:41.56 - Sedjatp
1:41.58 - Wanyoni
1:41.61 - TualTual's pb was 1:43.99 going in.
6th place was 1:42.43!!
Merge the 6 different threads please
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Too bad our guys weren't in the race! That is what can happen when you get a super fast pacer (48.8) and field. Multiple guys had two second pr's. Elliott Crestan is now a low 1:42 guy. What? And we kind of see that Wanyonyi couldn't run much faster with a pacer and competition than he did on his own in Kenya. Sedjati had shown he had a ton left in the tank in 1:43ish races. Hard to believe he is running mid-1:41 now. Maybe it's not only the effect of fast pacing and a willing field, as well as doping, but also maybe the shoe companies have produced magic spikes that work for the 800m, because a ton of guys hammered this one.
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I thought it was proven here at LR that positive splits do not work?! I guess if they had gone out in 52 that they would surely have gone under 1.40.
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Tual hadn't broken 1:44 before this year and he's 26. Can wavelights/pacing really account for THAT much of a jump? (Especially since he had them last year)
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This is proof the 800m is usually ran too conservatively.
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Hoppel runs alone domestically. He's capable of faster than 1:42.7 against international competition this year.
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Burly Bartttt wrote:
malmo wrote:
Whats the problem?
The problem is the shoes.
I will say I was reluctant to admit superspikes had an effect sub-1500m
Thought the glut of 1:43s and occasional 1:42 meant talent was the limiter
But considering the signs from the US high school ranks (not the best data, but here's a set to compare year-over-year) -- the sheer number of sub-1:50s is absolutely skyrocketing just like sub-4:05 miles and sub-8:50 two miles
Expecting the 1:41 club to expand some more this decade
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It's an Olympic year. Athletes taking more risks in terms of drugs/training.
I'm going to suspend my belief in some of these...
Eg. Azedinne Habz, PR at age 27: 1:49, 3:38. Age 30 runs 1:43.7.
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xzcvzxcv wrote:
Too bad our guys weren't in the race! That is what can happen when you get a super fast pacer (48.8) and field. Multiple guys had two second pr's. Elliott Crestan is now a low 1:42 guy. What? And we kind of see that Wanyonyi couldn't run much faster with a pacer and competition than he did on his own in Kenya. Sedjati had shown he had a ton left in the tank in 1:43ish races. Hard to believe he is running mid-1:41 now. Maybe it's not only the effect of fast pacing and a willing field, as well as doping, but also maybe the shoe companies have produced magic spikes that work for the 800m, because a ton of guys hammered this one.
8 of the 10 athletes in the race all set PBs. Wow!
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