Nike Structure: the real super shoe?

I tried them once and the outside of my foot hurt so badly along the lateral arch and plantar fascia that they quickly became lawn mowing shoes. Any shoe that has the slightest hint of support is a no go for me. I can only run in neutral shoes.

I don’t mess with the shoes for extra aggressive tweaks. I wear good support and only work out in fast gear.

Clunky.

I think Thomas and HOcker believe that his injury issues were caused by wearing super shoes too often. so i guess they find this to be the answer.

I only wear these (have a pair for mileage and another for workouts) barring a few times a year I wear vaporfly or dragonfly leading up to a race. They are the best trainers I have ever worn. They are about as minimal of a "stability" shoe as you'll find in the category. Really just an old school classic workhorse trainer.

I think there is something to what cole and cooper have to say re: training in supershoes all the time. Cooper stated it took about 3 months for the strength to return to his lower legs/calves upon ditching supershoes for most of his workouts.

I also kind of like the idea a (cheap now with sales) trainer can do everything for me and I don't need to go out and run through multiple super shoes a year. Give them a try!

It’s interesting to see many top pros and collegiate runners doing all of their hard workouts in super shoes. Obviously you can do more in super shoes but you’re sacrificing lower leg strength. I wonder about these high school and college kids that only know super shoes. Even if they worked out in the Takumi Sen or the Streakfly (lower stack, neither have plates) I bet they would be better off from a lower leg strength perspective. Ultimately, it’s pretty individual. Some people do well in super shoes. Others don’t.

Yeah for me being very much a hobby jogger I feel like I need not take any shortcuts and allow for my legs to develop and adapt to the stimulus more. If it sacrifices a few seconds here or there so be it. I get kind of a mental gain too knowing I did a faster session in "not fast" shoes too, idk.

I don't know about Structures specifically but this supports the lab tests that show super footwear benefits are put-them-on-and-you-go-faster (less effort for same speed) rather than the unsupported speculation on this message board that half the benefits are because wearing them in training allows you to train better.

You always could have "saved your legs" in training just as well running workouts in trainers. You won't hit the same times in training but the training effect is from the effort, not the artificially boosted training splits.

If racing in spikes, it was/still is a good idea to wear the spikes in training sometimes to adapt somewhat to the thinner shoe with lower heels, but the bulk of workouts can be done in regular trainers to "save the legs". The super foam isn't necessary in training.

Same, plantar fascia issues and even posterior tib from wearing the Structures. I'm an overpronator and I apparently I really don't need a motion control shoe. I just do just fine in a neutral shoe.

There's more to training than just "training effect." Take 2 sessions with the same effort: one in trainers and the other in super shoes. They'll have the same training effect if going by effort, but the session with super shoes has the benefit of practicing at a faster pace and getting your legs used to running at that speed.