Is Protein the Holy Grail of nutrients?

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2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 3:18pm EDT

Protein seems like the essential nutrient for recovery, but it is almost never discussed in the running world.

During my time (90s), it was all low fat, high carbs. Snackwells and other bad options. I wish I knew protein was critical. I had many over-use injuries and sickness, that looking back could be a result of lack of quality protein.

Now, I try to get 1g per pound. And, I notice that I am much stronger, and healthy. If there is one thing I could tell my younger self, get good protein.

Any other thoughts?

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 3:36pm EDT

re: AmaninWA

AmaninWA wrote:
Protein seems like the essential nutrient for recovery, but it is almost never discussed in the running world.
get good protein.
Any other thoughts?

Yeah, how'd we get it?

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 4:39pm EDT

re: AmaninWA

I think sleep and listening to your body is the real holy grail, but protein (as part of a good diet) is part of it too.

Injuries are more about not listening to your body than anything else.

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 4:49pm EDT

re: AmaninWA

AmaninWA wrote:
Protein seems like the essential nutrient for recovery, but it is almost never discussed in the running world.
During my time (90s), it was all low fat, high carbs. Snackwells and other bad options. I wish I knew protein was critical. I had many over-use injuries and sickness, that looking back could be a result of lack of quality protein.
Now, I try to get 1g per pound. And, I notice that I am much stronger, and healthy. If there is one thing I could tell my younger self, get good protein.
Any other thoughts?

Dude in the 70s people knew protein was important. In the 90s was fat versus carbs cause everyone assumed that you needed that ~1 gm/kg.

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 4:56pm EDT

re: AmaninWA

If you're crowding out protein by eating lots of extra carbs and fat, that could be a problem. But most people in developed countries get more than enough. Most athletes get the extra protein they need simply by consuming more calories to fuel their lifestyle.

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 5:14pm EDT

re: AmaninWA

When I was doing pseudo omad I got these respiratory sickness 4-5x/year. Mistake

I average about 90g protein and it's a lot better in terms of immunity and not feeling spent. I try for two animal sources(eggs/red meat) Organs(1-2month) and whey protein in Yogurts 1x/day.

If your protein stores are up your glutathione(master antioxidant, B12 assimilation) is being recruited

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 5:18pm EDT

re: 34t

Is protein the cheat code to life. ?

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 5:27pm EDT

re: AmaninWA

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 5:34pm EDT

re: AmaninWA

PRoTeIn wilL maKe yOU GaIn wAIT ANd buUhlkee

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2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 6:56pm EDT

re: AmaninWA

AmaninWA wrote:
Protein seems like the essential nutrient for recovery, but it is almost never discussed in the running world.
During my time (90s), it was all low fat, high carbs. Snackwells and other bad options. I wish I knew protein was critical. I had many over-use injuries and sickness, that looking back could be a result of lack of quality protein.
Now, I try to get 1g per pound. And, I notice that I am much stronger, and healthy. If there is one thing I could tell my younger self, get good protein.
Any other thoughts?

There is a huge, brick wall limit to its usefulness, and then the rest just gets expelled from the body as urea.

Give this a listen:

sphinx.acast.com

Link:sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/realscience...

The Real Science of Sport Podcast

Oct 11 2022

Episode: Unpacking the truth behind exercise and protein supplementation

Guest: Professor Stuart Phillips

scribd.com

2004_ProteinRequirementsandSupplementationinStrengthSports

Andrei Chirila

Protein requirements

Link:www.scribd.com/document/357638571/2004...

scribd.com

2004_ProteinRequirementsandSupplementationinStrengthSports

Andrei Chirila

Protein requirements

Link:www.scribd.com/document/357638571/2004...

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 7:07pm EDT

re: useful but to a limit

useful but to a limit wrote:
AmaninWA wrote:
Protein seems like the essential nutrient for recovery, but it is almost never discussed in the running world.
During my time (90s), it was all low fat, high carbs. Snackwells and other bad options. I wish I knew protein was critical. I had many over-use injuries and sickness, that looking back could be a result of lack of quality protein.
Now, I try to get 1g per pound. And, I notice that I am much stronger, and healthy. If there is one thing I could tell my younger self, get good protein.
Any other thoughts?
There is a huge, brick wall limit to its usefulness, and then the rest just gets expelled from the body as urea.
Give this a listen:
Link:sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/realscience...
The Real Science of Sport Podcast
Oct 11 2022
Episode: Unpacking the truth behind exercise and protein supplementation
Guest: Professor Stuart Phillips

Link:www.scribd.com/document/357638571/2004...
Link:www.scribd.com/document/357638571/2004...

How much protein should a person eat?

I can't into science do me a tldr pls

Not having kids is the cheat code to life. Essentially the holy grail.

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 7:11pm EDT

re: AmaninWA

Animal fat

beef

raw cheese

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 7:48pm EDT

re: AmaninWA

No.

It's just one macronutrient, and it will get converted into glucose if you eat more than you need (causing you to gain weight). 0.8 grams per kg of body weight (each day) is sufficient.

As an aside, how much protein do you think Eliud Kipchoge (or any other East African athlete) is eating?

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 7:49pm EDT

re: Big 3 foods

This stuff has been so over-hyped, written about ad nauseum, campaigned by the young bros, packaged up in bro-trition blogs posts, that I can't bear to read through this yet again.

Lately I've been trying to balance a Meditarranean diet in which meats and fish is limited with a need to make sure i get enough protein for all the exercise I do, so I supplement with protein powder as added insurance.

2 weeks ago 06/24/2024 9:46pm EDT

re: AmaninWA

AmaninWA wrote:
Protein seems like the essential nutrient for recovery, but it is almost never discussed in the running world.
During my time (90s), it was all low fat, high carbs. Snackwells and other bad options. I wish I knew protein was critical. I had many over-use injuries and sickness, that looking back could be a result of lack of quality protein.
Now, I try to get 1g per pound. And, I notice that I am much stronger, and healthy. If there is one thing I could tell my younger self, get good protein.
Any other thoughts?

Relax, protein inadequacy was almost certainly not your problem if you ate like the average American.

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