Paavo post-HS success?

Paavo in the southeast? Never seen that before. Everyone and their mother in the Chicago metro does it though.

I personally loath Paavo. You're right about athletes generally not having success past high school. I think Paavo stunts development because the ridiculous level of intensity raises the minimum effective stimulus for improvement way beyond a sustainable level. I personally have known several collegiate teammates and competitors that did Paavo in high school and didn't improve. In fact, many regressed.

For the sake of your kids, don't waste your tame with Paavo. There is a reason everyone is shifting towards threshold-heavy training - because it works AND because its sustainable.

Man a paavo thread. This makes me feel younger is it 2010?

I agree with these sentiments. My high school distance coach (also Midwest) had the team on Paavo and I went to a couple of the camps. The rigidity and rigor was effective for me personally as I got a late start to running and, to be honest, needed the stability. I ended up top 7 at a D1 school, nothing catching eyes here but not bad for a kid picked last in gym class at a gifted program in elementary school (that takes talent).

I think the same rigidity was worse for everyone else on the team - the lack of flexibility discouraged people more talented than me. 2 people ran D3 and that was it (they were also drunk degenerates at 17).

Paavo is also culty which is good for some and a Jonestown punchline for others. Cliques formed at camps and there were heart throbs and pariahs. We purposefully ran as a team at the back of the pack on the non-super competitive runs; no wonder we made state. Marshall, though, was good to me personally and genuinely cared. So I'd say there are good principles in almost a military way but over the years it gets a lot of deserved criticism on this world famous message board.

I’m rather certain I know who the person posting this is and the school / rival you are referencing. Do know that the team you are talking about does a very modified version of Paavo pretty unsimilar to the traditional Paavo. Obviously it works well for them with the athletes they are producing in high school and at least for a couple of the college ones they have gone on to have some pretty remarkable success. It’s worth considering it but definitely do a little more research.

With Paavo being so secretive though, how is it possible to research it?

And you didn’t answer the OP’s question - who are some athletes that have continued to progress at the next level?

Christian Wagner had injury issues, but he was a solid runner when healthy.

Most obvious example and from the rival team I believe op is referencing would be Charles Hicks. Bolles uses a system taken partially from Paavo but modifies it a bunch to make it their own.

Southlake Carroll is a PAAVO school. Though even though they are good I would recommend not doing PAAVO. It takes eggs against the wall talent spotting to a whole new level in most programs.

From Southlake Carroll (who does PAAVO):

Reed Brown (sub 4 in HS) - ran a 3:54 in college, but never really won anything or did too hot in the championships.

Colby Lowe - Had a great college career. Multiple top 10 finishes at NCAA XC Championships, ran a 13:42 5K in track, etc.