Crater (OR) and Ridgefield (CT) both shatter the National HS DMR Record that was anchored by Allan Webb. Westfield (NJ) was also close to the record in 3rd in one of the best races ever.
9:44.30
9:44.44
9:50.11
Herriman, the NXN Champ was 4th (9:56.09). Crater has 3 juniors on the team? That was one of the best races of the meet!
This was at New Balance Nationals, Tostenson and Hergenrother(sp?) closed in 4:02 for 1600m on the 1st and 2nd teams, both teams also opened in 3:00 (#3 in 3:02) for 1200m, then had 49s (#3 had 47.96), then 1:52s for the top three, and #3 closed in 4:06. Very impressive. That South Lakes record holder had Alan Webb and Richard Smith (a 1:49 800m runner).
This was at New Balance Nationals, Tostenson and Hergenrother(sp?) closed in 4:02 for 1600m on the 1st and 2nd teams, both teams also opened in 3:00 (#3 in 3:02) for 1200m, then had 49s (#3 had 47.96), then 1:52s for the top three, and #3 closed in 4:06. Very impressive. That South Lakes record holder had Alan Webb and Richard Smith (a 1:49 800m runner).
And Webb ran 3:59 on the anchor for that team. It was a tough record to break, 9:44 is nuts. Calvert Hall ran 9:58 (3:06, 49, 1:54, 4:07) and placed 7th, outside of the All-American spots. The girls race was also quite good, won in 11:20 (3:29, 57, 2:11, 4:41) and the top 6 were all under 11:40.
Crater (OR) and Ridgefield (CT) both shatter the National HS DMR Record that was anchored by Allan Webb. Westfield (NJ) was also close to the record in 3rd in one of the best races ever.
9:44.30
9:44.44
9:50.11
Herriman, the NXN Champ was 4th (9:56.09). Crater has 3 juniors on the team? That was one of the best races of the meet!
There was another thread on this and I already posted that these times are so insanely fast that it is hard to wrap my head around them.
So, it might sound strange to say that they could be even faster...
One thing I've noticed about a very competitive, fast DMR (particularly at the college level) is that the first three legs are generally getting close to maximum output, but if two or more teams are close in the 1600 (anchor) leg, there is sometimes a moment when they get strategic. None of us are going to run a race like a time trial if we want to win and there is another team or two on our shoulder. I suppose we could say that being pushed makes them go faster, but I'm not always so sure.
Do we know the personal bests of the guys on the 1600 leg and how close they were to their personal bests?
Crater (OR) and Ridgefield (CT) both shatter the National HS DMR Record that was anchored by Allan Webb. Westfield (NJ) was also close to the record in 3rd in one of the best races ever.
9:44.30
9:44.44
9:50.11
Herriman, the NXN Champ was 4th (9:56.09). Crater has 3 juniors on the team? That was one of the best races of the meet!
There was another thread on this and I already posted that these times are so insanely fast that it is hard to wrap my head around them.
So, it might sound strange to say that they could be even faster...
One thing I've noticed about a very competitive, fast DMR (particularly at the college level) is that the first three legs are generally getting close to maximum output, but if two or more teams are close in the 1600 (anchor) leg, there is sometimes a moment when they get strategic. None of us are going to run a race like a time trial if we want to win and there is another team or two on our shoulder. I suppose we could say that being pushed makes them go faster, but I'm not always so sure.
Do we know the personal bests of the guys on the 1600 leg and how close they were to their personal bests?
Tostenson has run 3:46 for 1500 and 4:03 for the mile. So a 4:02 1600 essentially his best. Hergenrother has also run 3:46 and 4:03, and has a 4:01 1600 as well. So a 4:02, very close to his best.
There was another thread on this and I already posted that these times are so insanely fast that it is hard to wrap my head around them.
So, it might sound strange to say that they could be even faster...
One thing I've noticed about a very competitive, fast DMR (particularly at the college level) is that the first three legs are generally getting close to maximum output, but if two or more teams are close in the 1600 (anchor) leg, there is sometimes a moment when they get strategic. None of us are going to run a race like a time trial if we want to win and there is another team or two on our shoulder. I suppose we could say that being pushed makes them go faster, but I'm not always so sure.
Do we know the personal bests of the guys on the 1600 leg and how close they were to their personal bests?
Tostenson has run 3:46 for 1500 and 4:03 for the mile. So a 4:02 1600 essentially his best. Hergenrother has also run 3:46 and 4:03, and has a 4:01 1600 as well. So a 4:02, very close to his best.
There was another thread on this and I already posted that these times are so insanely fast that it is hard to wrap my head around them.
So, it might sound strange to say that they could be even faster...
One thing I've noticed about a very competitive, fast DMR (particularly at the college level) is that the first three legs are generally getting close to maximum output, but if two or more teams are close in the 1600 (anchor) leg, there is sometimes a moment when they get strategic. None of us are going to run a race like a time trial if we want to win and there is another team or two on our shoulder. I suppose we could say that being pushed makes them go faster, but I'm not always so sure.
Do we know the personal bests of the guys on the 1600 leg and how close they were to their personal bests?
Tostenson has run 3:46 for 1500 and 4:03 for the mile. So a 4:02 1600 essentially his best. Hergenrother has also run 3:46 and 4:03, and has a 4:01 1600 as well. So a 4:02, very close to his best.
Appreciated!
So, I guess they pretty much brought out the best in each other. Good for these guys.
Crater (OR) and Ridgefield (CT) both shatter the National HS DMR Record that was anchored by Allan Webb. Westfield (NJ) was also close to the record in 3rd in one of the best races ever.
9:44.30
9:44.44
9:50.11
Herriman, the NXN Champ was 4th (9:56.09). Crater has 3 juniors on the team? That was one of the best races of the meet!
Everyone on the Herriman DMR (Beckstrom, Marks, Hofheins, and Steadman) graduated.
Medleys are stupid. They should be renamed “The Miler and 3 Lil Buddies.”
Is that why Drew Griffith's team got smoked?
Griffith's team got 8th, 16 seconds off of 1st.
Last year they would have been 3rd and lost by 2 seconds. Indoors they would have won. NBNO 2022 they would have been 2nd (only to themselves). Abnormally fast race, but that's a top 3 performance in any other DMR race ever.
It is quite comical to look at though.
Herriman (9:56)4:10 anchor
Westford (9:57)4:07 anchor
Ridgewood (9:58) 4:02 anchor
Calvert Hall (9:57) 4:07 anchor
Butler (10:01) 4:01 anchor (Griffith)
St. Xavier(10:02) 4:16 anchor
Union Catholic (10:03)4:10 anchor
Jackson (10:03) 4:13 anchor
St Xavier was 9th. Butler was 8th. If Griffith had anchored for St. Xavier, they would have been 3rd and lost by 2 seconds. And that's if that extra motivation doesn't make Griffith catch Tostenson
Tostenson has run 3:46 for 1500 and 4:03 for the mile. So a 4:02 1600 essentially his best. Hergenrother has also run 3:46 and 4:03, and has a 4:01 1600 as well. So a 4:02, very close to his best.
Hergenrothers 4:01 was a 401.8 DMR split last year, when he had to go chase a guy down
I'd argue a 4:02.2 while leading for 1580 meters is more impressive than a 4:01.8 with guys to go get
What are the odds that a random little school would be able to put together a team like this? I love it. Crater isn't even a real town. It is a school in the "suburb" of a small town.
Southern Oregon is so random. It is like all hills, oak and fir trees, open spaces, lava rocks, mountains and forests. Then you drive around a bend in the river and suddenly America's number one Shakespearian festival (and Globe Theater) and one of the top-5 high school running programs. So weird/awesome.
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Last year they would have been 3rd and lost by 2 seconds. Indoors they would have won. NBNO 2022 they would have been 2nd (only to themselves). Abnormally fast race, but that's a top 3 performance in any other DMR race ever.
It is quite comical to look at though.
Herriman (9:56)4:10 anchor
Westford (9:57)4:07 anchor
Ridgewood (9:58) 4:02 anchor
Calvert Hall (9:57) 4:07 anchor
Butler (10:01) 4:01 anchor (Griffith)
St. Xavier(10:02) 4:16 anchor
Union Catholic (10:03)4:10 anchor
Jackson (10:03) 4:13 anchor
St Xavier was 9th. Butler was 8th. If Griffith had anchored for St. Xavier, they would have been 3rd and lost by 2 seconds. And that's if that extra motivation doesn't make Griffith catch Tostenson
You are mistaken.
At the 2010 national meet (or one of them; can't remember if there was more than one) there were at least 5 teams 10:00 or better. Three of them were from NY (Warwick, Liverpool, Burnt Hills), one was from NJ (Rosa brothers), and a team from CT with a hot anchor leg won it in 9:56 or so.
Probably close to being on-par with yesterday's race, factoring in the super-shoes.
Tostenson has run 3:46 for 1500 and 4:03 for the mile. So a 4:02 1600 essentially his best. Hergenrother has also run 3:46 and 4:03, and has a 4:01 1600 as well. So a 4:02, very close to his best.
Hergenrothers 4:01 was a 401.8 DMR split last year, when he had to go chase a guy down
I'd argue a 4:02.2 while leading for 1580 meters is more impressive than a 4:01.8 with guys to go get
Actually his 4:01 I pulled from an official split enroute to his 4:03. I believe the 3:46 is also an enroute from that race. But yes, 4:02 while leading is quite impressive and they certainly did not sandbag it.
Last year they would have been 3rd and lost by 2 seconds. Indoors they would have won. NBNO 2022 they would have been 2nd (only to themselves). Abnormally fast race, but that's a top 3 performance in any other DMR race ever.
It is quite comical to look at though.
Herriman (9:56)4:10 anchor
Westford (9:57)4:07 anchor
Ridgewood (9:58) 4:02 anchor
Calvert Hall (9:57) 4:07 anchor
Butler (10:01) 4:01 anchor (Griffith)
St. Xavier(10:02) 4:16 anchor
Union Catholic (10:03)4:10 anchor
Jackson (10:03) 4:13 anchor
St Xavier was 9th. Butler was 8th. If Griffith had anchored for St. Xavier, they would have been 3rd and lost by 2 seconds. And that's if that extra motivation doesn't make Griffith catch Tostenson
You are mistaken.
At the 2010 national meet (or one of them; can't remember if there was more than one) there were at least 5 teams 10:00 or better. Three of them were from NY (Warwick, Liverpool, Burnt Hills), one was from NJ (Rosa brothers), and a team from CT with a hot anchor leg won it in 9:56 or so.
Probably close to being on-par with yesterday's race, factoring in the super-shoes.
Yup, it was 2010. 5 teams under 10:00 with another 10:00.0 and two more at 10:04, 2:59 the fastest leadoff, 1:51 the fastest 800, and 4:05 the fastest anchor. Hamden the winner. The biggest difference in that race was the anchors, except for the winning team the top 8 were all 4:09-4:13.
