Kejelcha's range, all-time -- maybe the best?

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1 month ago 06/14/2024 7:08pm EDT

Kejelcha finally crushed a 10,000m (before today, he had run 26:49.xx four times) and now has a pretty impressive career spread across the distances. To range from 3:47.01 to 57:41 with an all time mark in every event in between -- mind boggling.

Yes, you can argue with that talent he should have more medals, but putting that aside, here's a guy you can appreciate for his willingness to go head down and push the pace in the 4th k of a 5000m.

1500 metres – 3:32.59 (Zagreb 2018)
1500 metres indoor – 3:31.25+ (Boston, MA 2019) – 4th athlete all time
One mile – 3:58.24 (Stanford, CA 2019)
One mile indoor – 3:47.01 (Boston, MA 2019) World record
2000 metres indoor – 4:57.74 (Metz 2014) WU20B
3000 metres – 7:23.64 (Eugene 2023) – 4th athlete all time
3000 metres indoor – 7:38.67 (Karlsruhe 2018)
5000 metres – 12:38.95 (Oslo 2024) – 4th athlete all time
10,000 metres – 26:31.01 (Nerja 2024) — 7th athlete all time

Road
5 kilometres – 12:50 (Lille 2023) — 2nd athlete all time
10 kilometres – 26:37 (Laredo, Spain 2024) — 3rd athlete all time
Half marathon – 57:41 (Valencia 2023) — 3rd athlete all time

1 month ago 06/14/2024 7:13pm EDT

re: jabouko

Yes. he is the range GOAT, imo. the thing he has in favor for running all these great times is that he never wins, so he is not afraid to lose.

that maybe sounds like an insult. it's just reality. You have guys like Ingebrigtsen looking to protect their record, ego, or aura of invincibility. Mo Farah was the same.

No such issue with Kjelcha. I'm a big fan.

1 month ago 06/14/2024 7:22pm EDT

re: jabouko

jabouko wrote:
Kejelcha finally crushed a 10,000m (before today, he had run 26:49.xx four times) and now has a pretty impressive career spread across the distances. To range from 3:47.01 to 57:41 with an all time mark in every event in between -- mind boggling.
Yes, you can argue with that talent he should have more medals, but putting that aside, here's a guy you can appreciate for his willingness to go head down and push the pace in the 4th k of a 5000m.
1500 metres – 3:32.59 (Zagreb 2018)
1500 metres indoor – 3:31.25+ (Boston, MA 2019) – 4th athlete all time
One mile – 3:58.24 (Stanford, CA 2019)
One mile indoor – 3:47.01 (Boston, MA 2019) World record
2000 metres indoor – 4:57.74 (Metz 2014) WU20B
3000 metres – 7:23.64 (Eugene 2023) – 4th athlete all time
3000 metres indoor – 7:38.67 (Karlsruhe 2018)
5000 metres – 12:38.95 (Oslo 2024) – 4th athlete all time
10,000 metres – 26:31.01 (Nerja 2024) — 7th athlete all time
Road
5 kilometres – 12:50 (Lille 2023) — 2nd athlete all time
10 kilometres – 26:37 (Laredo, Spain 2024) — 3rd athlete all time
Half marathon – 57:41 (Valencia 2023) — 3rd athlete all time

with respect to kejelcha and his talents the range goat is said aouita imo. running great times across all events no pre super shoe without the benefit of 4 guys around you.

like, i’m not some luddite who rails against pacers and shoes and wave light but it’s had an undeniable effect and for aouita to do what he did in the 80s is super impressive

1 month ago 06/14/2024 7:45pm EDT

re: john track and field

I can accept Aouita -- doping q's aside, he was in 1:43-1:44, 3:29-3:31, 7:29-7:33, 12:58-13:04 shape for a 5 year stretch.

Every distance from the mile up is one thing -- to cross between 800 and 3000+, same season, was truly impressive.

1 month ago 06/14/2024 8:30pm EDT

re: jabouko

You must always bring the "doping hypothesis" to the table?

North African have always being great distance runners. Did know who were the 3 first World Champion of Cross Country from that continent? (1960, 1964 and 1968).
Gammoudi was a pioneer of Olympic African track at the same level as Kipchose Keino.

Stop spreading hatred.

1 month ago 06/14/2024 8:35pm EDT

re: jabouko

1 month ago 06/14/2024 8:39pm EDT

re: UKValues

And if we go by the criteria who was the most influential in the last 50 years, Aouita win it hands down.

Just a small comparison I looked today, Paul Ereng the winner of the 800m (Seoul 1988) was a product NCAA (same as Henri Rono).

That's things that don't belong to Aouita world.

1 month ago 06/14/2024 8:40pm EDT

re: jabouko

jabouko wrote:
Kejelcha finally crushed a 10,000m (before today, he had run 26:49.xx four times) and now has a pretty impressive career spread across the distances. To range from 3:47.01 to 57:41 with an all time mark in every event in between -- mind boggling.
Yes, you can argue with that talent he should have more medals, but putting that aside, here's a guy you can appreciate for his willingness to go head down and push the pace in the 4th k of a 5000m.
1500 metres – 3:32.59 (Zagreb 2018)
1500 metres indoor – 3:31.25+ (Boston, MA 2019) – 4th athlete all time
One mile – 3:58.24 (Stanford, CA 2019)
One mile indoor – 3:47.01 (Boston, MA 2019) World record
2000 metres indoor – 4:57.74 (Metz 2014) WU20B
3000 metres – 7:23.64 (Eugene 2023) – 4th athlete all time
3000 metres indoor – 7:38.67 (Karlsruhe 2018)
5000 metres – 12:38.95 (Oslo 2024) – 4th athlete all time
10,000 metres – 26:31.01 (Nerja 2024) — 7th athlete all time
Road
5 kilometres – 12:50 (Lille 2023) — 2nd athlete all time
10 kilometres – 26:37 (Laredo, Spain 2024) — 3rd athlete all time
Half marathon – 57:41 (Valencia 2023) — 3rd athlete all time

The closest has to be Geb, right? Kejelcha is now ahead of him at every distance, except for the 2000m (though he could probably equal or surpass Haile as Yomif’s time is not indicative of ability), the 10000m (even todays amazing run is well off of Geb’s pr), and the marathon which Kejelcha has not yet contested

1 month ago 06/14/2024 8:46pm EDT

re: jabouko

Also, gotta remember Augustine Choge:

800m 1:44

1500m 3:29

3000m 7:28

5000m 12:53

10000m 28:22 (okay kind of weak)

half marathon 59:26

1 month ago 06/14/2024 8:46pm EDT

re: jabouko

Aouita has a case just because his 800 is so good. The 1500 is still a primary aerobic event, and you can get pretty fast with just pure fitness, but the 800 is so anaerobic that it's really really hard to run a fast 800 AND do well at 5k/10k. Even in 3:47 shape I doubt Kejelcha is coming close to 1:44. Maybe 1:46 at best, likely 1:47-1:48.

1 month ago 06/15/2024 12:07am EDT

re: jabouko

jabouko wrote:
Kejelcha finally crushed a 10,000m (before today, he had run 26:49.xx four times) and now has a pretty impressive career spread across the distances. To range from 3:47.01 to 57:41 with an all time mark in every event in between -- mind boggling.
Yes, you can argue with that talent he should have more medals, but putting that aside, here's a guy you can appreciate for his willingness to go head down and push the pace in the 4th k of a 5000m.
1500 metres – 3:32.59 (Zagreb 2018)
1500 metres indoor – 3:31.25+ (Boston, MA 2019) – 4th athlete all time
One mile – 3:58.24 (Stanford, CA 2019)
One mile indoor – 3:47.01 (Boston, MA 2019) World record
2000 metres indoor – 4:57.74 (Metz 2014) WU20B
3000 metres – 7:23.64 (Eugene 2023) – 4th athlete all time
3000 metres indoor – 7:38.67 (Karlsruhe 2018)
5000 metres – 12:38.95 (Oslo 2024) – 4th athlete all time
10,000 metres – 26:31.01 (Nerja 2024) — 7th athlete all time
Road
5 kilometres – 12:50 (Lille 2023) — 2nd athlete all time
10 kilometres – 26:37 (Laredo, Spain 2024) — 3rd athlete all time
Half marathon – 57:41 (Valencia 2023) — 3rd athlete all time

Great post and very informative! He is overdue for a great champs performance so maybe this is the year. I give a slight edge to Chep as the 10000 favorite in Paris but Yomif can absolutely win the whole damn thing if he gets his tactics right.

1 month ago 06/15/2024 12:43am EDT

re: my two pennies

my two pennies wrote:
Aouita has a case just because his 800 is so good. The 1500 is still a primary aerobic event, and you can get pretty fast with just pure fitness, but the 800 is so anaerobic that it's really really hard to run a fast 800 AND do well at 5k/10k. Even in 3:47 shape I doubt Kejelcha is coming close to 1:44. Maybe 1:46 at best, likely 1:47-1:48.

Nico ran 147 in one stab at it and you think YK is running slower lollllllllll gtfo

1 month ago 06/15/2024 12:59am EDT

re: jabouko

Haile Gebrselassie at different points held world records at every distance between 2000m and 30K, either indoor, outdoor or both: 2K indoors, 3K indoors, two miles, 5k indoors and outdoors, 10K track and road, 15K, 20K, Half, 25K, Marathon, 30K, one hour run.

1 month ago 06/15/2024 1:07am EDT

re: jabouko

That reminds me you think he would have better times outdoors since he's so tall

1 month ago 06/15/2024 1:07am EDT

re: 7777777

I mean in the 1500 and mile

1 month ago 06/15/2024 1:11am EDT

re: triplethreshold

Yes maybe he just gets too nervous to perform at championships. Reminds of Asefa Powell with his talent

1 month ago 06/15/2024 2:23am EDT

re: jabouko

Geb, multiple Golds, WR at 1500, second or third best at 3000, 5000, 10,000, Marathon multiple WRs. Are you really so stupid to use marks in the current Shoe era with those of decades ago. When Kejelcha has won Gold across ALL the standard, Olympic events give this another go, he is not in the same league. Really you must be young and not really understand the sport.

1 month ago 06/15/2024 2:36am EDT

re: triplethreshold

triplethreshold wrote:
jabouko wrote:
Kejelcha finally crushed a 10,000m (before today, he had run 26:49.xx four times) and now has a pretty impressive career spread across the distances. To range from 3:47.01 to 57:41 with an all time mark in every event in between -- mind boggling.
Yes, you can argue with that talent he should have more medals, but putting that aside, here's a guy you can appreciate for his willingness to go head down and push the pace in the 4th k of a 5000m.
1500 metres – 3:32.59 (Zagreb 2018)
1500 metres indoor – 3:31.25+ (Boston, MA 2019) – 4th athlete all time
One mile – 3:58.24 (Stanford, CA 2019)
One mile indoor – 3:47.01 (Boston, MA 2019) World record
2000 metres indoor – 4:57.74 (Metz 2014) WU20B
3000 metres – 7:23.64 (Eugene 2023) – 4th athlete all time
3000 metres indoor – 7:38.67 (Karlsruhe 2018)
5000 metres – 12:38.95 (Oslo 2024) – 4th athlete all time
10,000 metres – 26:31.01 (Nerja 2024) — 7th athlete all time
Road
5 kilometres – 12:50 (Lille 2023) — 2nd athlete all time
10 kilometres – 26:37 (Laredo, Spain 2024) — 3rd athlete all time
Half marathon – 57:41 (Valencia 2023) — 3rd athlete all time
Great post and very informative! He is overdue for a great champs performance so maybe this is the year. I give a slight edge to Chep as the 10000 favorite in Paris but Yomif can absolutely win the whole damn thing if he gets his tactics right.

Don’t know about overdue. Lots of great athletes haven’t shown up in big races

1 month ago 06/15/2024 3:06am EDT

re: 7777777

7777777 wrote:
Yes maybe he just gets too nervous to perform at championships. Reminds of Asefa Powell with his talent

Don’t think so. -He clearly suffers when it’s freakish hot / humid (as in almost every champs). But he won a silver in the air conditioning Worlds in 2019…!

1 month ago 06/15/2024 3:14am EDT

re: 7777777

7777777 wrote:
I mean in the 1500 and mile

Agreed. He is unstable here, but I see a sub 3.30 on a perfect day. And there are clearly other distances to improve (f.ex 2000m) but first and foremost his 10000m (26.31 cannot be his ceiling) -no reason for him to be worse there than Bekele, Geb and Cheptegei (given his half m pb)…

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