$160 for training shoes is getting out of hand.. This is just greed at this point. I'm not going to support local running stores if they keep selling everything at MSRP.
$160 for training shoes is getting out of hand.. This is just greed at this point. I'm not going to support local running stores if they keep selling everything at MSRP.
These shoe store owners must be driving lambos.
You should be mad at the shoe companies if anything. Running stores are not allowed to sell below the MSRP of shoes because of something called MAPS policy. It’s the shoe companies who are greedy by sending their shoes to other sources who can sell for less. It’s actually damaging to local running stores. Don’t get mad at the stores
I don’t mind paying suggested retail price for a quality product. Unethical running stores sell defective shoes at full retail price. They buy bad shoes from distributors at a huge discount and sell them as prime. Buyer beware!
To save money, go to the local store, try shoes on, then order them online. Repeat. And when you go back in two years, whine about there being no local store where you can try shoes on.
$160 for training shoes is getting out of hand.. This is just greed at this point. I'm not going to support local running stores if they keep selling everything at MSRP.
These shoe store owners must be driving lambos.
You could be driving lambos but instead you're on here b!tching bout nothing. 🤡
You think these stores are making massive profits?
They still have to pay to lease the space and pay the employees to help you, plus buy the shoes and keep them on the shelves.
You’re paying more for service and convenience. If you preferred buying online, you would already be doing that and wouldn’t be aware of your issues with the local running store.
Retailers and manufacturers tailor their price point to Joe Schmo. Joe runs 20 miles a week, his shoes last a year. They do not tailor their prices to the few competitive runners who need 6 pairs of shoes a year.
Buy yesteryear's models on ebay or something on sale from an online retailer (running warehouse usually has a good selection of discounted shoes).
MAP(Minimum Advertised Price) pricing protects the smaller or “local” running shoe retailer. A larger volume store, whether it be running shoes or other sporting equipment or shoes, can sell shoes for less of a markup than a lower volume shoe such as a local running shoes and still be profitable. MAP pricing is done to prevent Iarger stores from offering deep discounts that would put smaller stores out of business.
I know the operators of local running stores don't always think it, but the running shoe companies know how important the local running store is to the sport and the business. They not only sell the products, they provide guidance to the customers, sponsor local races, conduct run clubs and clinics.
Keep in mind, the running shoe companies are in a highly competitive industry and have to answer to stockholders. They need to make and sell a lot of shoes, larger stores help them make their numbers, plus they also need non-runners to buy their shoes as well. In their pursuit to achieve this, sometimes the interest of the local stores are lost.
I buy version 1.0 when version 2.0 comes out and the version 1.0 price drops. As frequently as the shoe companies change models, this typically happens very quickly.
I've never been one to "need" the latest and greatest. In fact I usually like the older model better and wish they hadn't changed it.
MAP(Minimum Advertised Price) pricing protects the smaller or “local” running shoe retailer. A larger volume store, whether it be running shoes or other sporting equipment or shoes, can sell shoes for less of a markup than a lower volume shoe such as a local running shoes and still be profitable. MAP pricing is done to prevent Iarger stores from offering deep discounts that would put smaller stores out of business.
I know the operators of local running stores don't always think it, but the running shoe companies know how important the local running store is to the sport and the business. They not only sell the products, they provide guidance to the customers, sponsor local races, conduct run clubs and clinics.
Keep in mind, the running shoe companies are in a highly competitive industry and have to answer to stockholders. They need to make and sell a lot of shoes, larger stores help them make their numbers, plus they also need non-runners to buy their shoes as well. In their pursuit to achieve this, sometimes the interest of the local stores are lost.
This sounds good, but I was just at Dick's last week and they are selling Nike Infinity RN4s and Pegs at all different prices based on colorway. These are the current shoes, not the previous model. So I got an "ugly" pair of Infinity RNs for $99 (normally $160). How do they do this with the MAP policy?
I have always supported my local shops. I even worked at one after college. One thing started to happen that made it hard to continue supporting them: the appointment model. At my local store, they have appointments that are required to try on shoes. I get this for the full-service foot scan, treadmill test, etc. But if you're someone who just needs to try one on really quickly and bolt, it can be really inefficient. There have been times when I have just wanted to get a new pair and have been told that the next available appointment is in 45 minutes, so I leave and go to Dicks. I do realize that they want to make sure you're in the right shoe, but sometimes a customer knows. Usually, I can just ask for the box and go. The only time I even need to try them on is if a model change has happened and I want to confirm the size. Anyway, that is my rant...
Buy online. If everyone wants you to shop local then the prices should be competitive.The person making six figures shouldn't be telling someone where to buy from.
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To save money, go to the local store, try shoes on, then order them online. Repeat. And when you go back in two years, whine about there being no local store where you can try shoes on.
It works but this is a dick move.
If you’re going to go to a store and try a pair on and talk with someone that actually knows what they’re doing, buy the first pair from them. If you like enough and want to do the online route, and the shoe is still available, buy subsequent pairs that way. If you’re lucky you’ll also be able to snag good deals if it becomes a close out model and there is still availability.
To save money, go to the local store, try shoes on, then order them online. Repeat. And when you go back in two years, whine about there being no local store where you can try shoes on.
It works but this is a dick move.
If you’re going to go to a store and try a pair on and talk with someone that actually knows what they’re doing, buy the first pair from them. If you like enough and want to do the online route, and the shoe is still available, buy subsequent pairs that way. If you’re lucky you’ll also be able to snag good deals if it becomes a close out model and there is still availability.
Sorry, when I first read your post I didn’t read it all the way through. You’re spot on.
MAP(Minimum Advertised Price) pricing protects the smaller or “local” running shoe retailer. A larger volume store, whether it be running shoes or other sporting equipment or shoes, can sell shoes for less of a markup than a lower volume shoe such as a local running shoes and still be profitable. MAP pricing is done to prevent Iarger stores from offering deep discounts that would put smaller stores out of business.
I know the operators of local running stores don't always think it, but the running shoe companies know how important the local running store is to the sport and the business. They not only sell the products, they provide guidance to the customers, sponsor local races, conduct run clubs and clinics.
Keep in mind, the running shoe companies are in a highly competitive industry and have to answer to stockholders. They need to make and sell a lot of shoes, larger stores help them make their numbers, plus they also need non-runners to buy their shoes as well. In their pursuit to achieve this, sometimes the interest of the local stores are lost.
This sounds good, but I was just at Dick's last week and they are selling Nike Infinity RN4s and Pegs at all different prices based on colorway. These are the current shoes, not the previous model. So I got an "ugly" pair of Infinity RNs for $99 (normally $160). How do they do this with the MAP policy?
I have always supported my local shops. I even worked at one after college. One thing started to happen that made it hard to continue supporting them: the appointment model. At my local store, they have appointments that are required to try on shoes. I get this for the full-service foot scan, treadmill test, etc. But if you're someone who just needs to try one on really quickly and bolt, it can be really inefficient. There have been times when I have just wanted to get a new pair and have been told that the next available appointment is in 45 minutes, so I leave and go to Dicks. I do realize that they want to make sure you're in the right shoe, but sometimes a customer knows. Usually, I can just ask for the box and go. The only time I even need to try them on is if a model change has happened and I want to confirm the size. Anyway, that is my rant...
MAP pricing is only for a specified time period after release, such as 9 months. After that time period, the retailer may advertise any price they wish. The shoes you saw might have come off of MAP pricing.
And keep in mind, in a free, regulated economy, the store can charge what they want. However, if they sell for less than MAP during the contracted MAP period they may jeopardize the relationship with the shoe company.
$160 for training shoes is getting out of hand.. This is just greed at this point. I'm not going to support local running stores if they keep selling everything at MSRP.
These shoe store owners must be driving lambos.
It's because they have no other choice. They need to have very high margins to pay for all their expenses: vendors, wages, monthly lease payments, electric, water, insurance policy.... They also have to pay for all of their personal expenses such as: mortgage, health insurance, car insurance, food, electric, cell phone bills....