Prediction: Quincy Wilson will finally break Michael Granville's National 800 HS Record

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1 month ago 06/05/2024 11:33pm EDT

1:46.45 is the record. Cade Flatt came close (broke 1:47 three times) but was likely at the absolute limits of his speed (400 PR of 46.89; 600 PR of 1:17)

Quincy Wilson is only a 16 year old sophomore and has run:

21.02 for 200

33.1 for 300

45.1 for 400

1:17 for 600

1:50 for 800

I don't think it's out of the question to suggest that, assuming he hasn't peaked, this kid could rewrite the American high school record books from 400 to 800.

The records are 44.69 (Darrell Robinson), 1:15.6 (Will Sumner), and 1:46.45 (Michael Granville)

1 month ago 06/06/2024 12:04am EDT

re: hot takes guy over here

I don't think he gets the 800m. Too fast. 600m record is a real possibility. So is the 400m.

What happened to Simms? He ran 45.12 as a Soph last year.

1 month ago 06/06/2024 3:08am EDT

re: TheRealScotty

TheRealScotty wrote:
I don't think he gets the 800m. Too fast. 600m record is a real possibility. So is the 400m.
What happened to Simms? He ran 45.12 as a Soph last year.

Probably was his peak

1 month ago 06/06/2024 3:09am EDT

re: hot takes guy over here

hot takes guy over here wrote:
1:46.45 is the record. Cade Flatt came close (broke 1:47 three times) but was likely at the absolute limits of his speed (400 PR of 46.89; 600 PR of 1:17)
Quincy Wilson is only a 16 year old sophomore and has run:
21.02 for 200
33.1 for 300
45.1 for 400
1:17 for 600
1:50 for 800
I don't think it's out of the question to suggest that, assuming he hasn't peaked, this kid could rewrite the American high school record books from 400 to 800.
The records are 44.69 (Darrell Robinson), 1:15.6 (Will Sumner), and 1:46.45 (Michael Granville)

It's possible, but we'd have to see Quincy run a few more 800s first. 1:50 is solid, but it was an easy 54-56 split and he is clearly capable of way more. He has the build of an 800 phenom too so it's definitely a possibility.

With his 45.1 speed, I'd love to see him be one of the greatest 400/800 types out there.

1 month ago 06/06/2024 3:13pm EDT

re: hot takes guy over here

Simms has been injured. Coming back next week at U20 (at least he has declared)

I expect Lutkenhaus to be the one making a run at the 800m record. Already has the freshman record (1:49.12). Curious what he gets at Brooks next week.

1 month ago 06/06/2024 4:13pm EDT

re: hot takes guy over here

He’ll go pro before and disqualify him from the record

1 month ago 06/06/2024 6:04pm EDT

re: Weak Runner

Weak Runner wrote:
Simms has been injured. Coming back next week at U20 (at least he has declared)
I expect Lutkenhaus to be the one making a run at the 800m record. Already has the freshman record (1:49.12). Curious what he gets at Brooks next week.

Idk, he's pretty damn young to be running 1:49 already. We all know what happens to kids who run man-times early in age.

1 month ago 06/06/2024 7:12pm EDT

re: hot takes guy over here

Letsrun has a long history of overhyping 400m runners in the 800m, mainly from people who never ran the 800. However, in this case I could see Quincy having the ability to get the record, given how he ran that 1:50 and it was his first one of the season and his age.

However, it would require some specific training and I don’t see him getting it because he will focus (rightly) on the 400m. His 800m time is great but his 400m is otherworldly - he has WR potential if he improves like a normal 16yo.

1 month ago 06/07/2024 2:16am EDT

re: JeremyWariner

JeremyWariner wrote:
Letsrun has a long history of overhyping 400m runners in the 800m, mainly from people who never ran the 800. However, in this case I could see Quincy having the ability to get the record, given how he ran that 1:50 and it was his first one of the season and his age.
However, it would require some specific training and I don’t see him getting it because he will focus (rightly) on the 400m. His 800m time is great but his 400m is otherworldly - he has WR potential if he improves like a normal 16yo.

He needs to be careful, as we all know what happens to young phenoms running absurd times at an early age.

That being said I wish him the best and I think there are a lot of great things coming

Side note, I think it's smart how little he's racing this season. Saving up for the upperclassmen/college (if not pro) for when it truly matters

1 month ago 06/07/2024 2:27am EDT

re: Gordie

His 1:17 in the 600m off of 45 low 400m speed, shows me that he probably won’t run 1:46. Unless something drastically changes in his training.
sumner(who didn’t get the 800 record) ran 1:15 off of less foot speed than Wilson. Sumner ran XC in high school as well.

1 month ago 06/07/2024 5:22am EDT

re: Gordie

Gordie wrote:
JeremyWariner wrote:
Letsrun has a long history of overhyping 400m runners in the 800m, mainly from people who never ran the 800. However, in this case I could see Quincy having the ability to get the record, given how he ran that 1:50 and it was his first one of the season and his age.
However, it would require some specific training and I don’t see him getting it because he will focus (rightly) on the 400m. His 800m time is great but his 400m is otherworldly - he has WR potential if he improves like a normal 16yo.
He needs to be careful, as we all know what happens to young phenoms running absurd times at an early age.
That being said I wish him the best and I think there are a lot of great things coming
Side note, I think it's smart how little he's racing this season. Saving up for the upperclassmen/college (if not pro) for when it truly matters

Normally I would be worried but Bullis has a very very good understanding of what they are doing.

1 month ago 06/07/2024 9:00am EDT

re: hot takes guy over here

Lutkenhouse will run faster over the 800. No doubt about it.

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