Just to be clear:
Jakob ingebrigtsen and Josh Kerr are 12 and 2 in the 1500 and 1 and 0 in the 5k.
Ingebrigtsen’s 800 off of 120 mile weeks is 1:46.44; just over a second slower than Kerr’s.
Ingebrigtsen’s 1500 is 3:27.14; nearly 2 seconds faster than Kerr’s.
JAKOB’S MILE IS 5.1 SECONDS FASTER THAN JOSH’S.
HIS 3k IS 7 SECONDS FASTER THAN JAKE’S.
JOSH TOOK THE INDOOR WORLD RECORD IN THE 2 MILE AND WAS WITH GRANT FISCHER UNTIL 300 TO GO; JAKOB HAS RUN 6 SECONDS FASTER SOLO.
JAKOB HAS THE NUMBER 19 ALL TIME 5k IN 12:48.45; KERR IS 1088 ALL TIME.
Jakob can dictate whether the Olympic 1500 is fast, if someone else doesn’t take it out he will, and no one in the world can run a faster 1500m than him.
Jakob Ingebrigtsen is rightfully insulted by this comparison, and is simply defending himself with his comments about Kerr.
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You're missing the part where Kerr just ran an 8 minute 2 mile, a time that was seen as completely untouchable until Jakob ran 7:54. And YES, Jakob has ran 7:54 outside. Kerr didn't have any pacing lights too.
But Jakob has been injured for a large portion of the year, and Kerr has had a big jump in ability the past 12 months. So we can say with confidence that Kerr can obviously run a much faster mile and 5k than he has ran in the past. Will a fully fit Jakob beat this version of Kerr over 1500? Possibly, I wouldn't say probably. Jakob doesn't have the kick that Kerr has, Kerr also has the fitness to be there until the end too.
So it's much closer than you make out. It doesn't matter how many times Jakob beat Josh in 2020 or 2021. We are in 20244354 -
yeah but no wrote:
You're missing the part where Kerr just ran an 8 minute 2 mile, a time that was seen as completely untouchable until Jakob ran 7:54. And YES, Jakob has ran 7:54 outside. Kerr didn't have any pacing lights too.
But Jakob has been injured for a large portion of the year, and Kerr has had a big jump in ability the past 12 months. So we can say with confidence that Kerr can obviously run a much faster mile and 5k than he has ran in the past. Will a fully fit Jakob beat this version of Kerr over 1500? Possibly, I wouldn't say probably. Jakob doesn't have the kick that Kerr has, Kerr also has the fitness to be there until the end too.
So it's much closer than you make out. It doesn't matter how many times Jakob beat Josh in 2020 or 2021. We are in 2024
Kerr has definitely gotten better, but the comparison is definitely still not there. This will mostly be answered by Pre and the olympic final, but as of now, Jakob is still #1.
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yeah but no wrote:
You're missing the part where Kerr just ran an 8 minute 2 mile, a time that was seen as completely untouchable until Jakob ran 7:54. And YES, Jakob has ran 7:54 outside. Kerr didn't have any pacing lights too.
But Jakob has been injured for a large portion of the year, and Kerr has had a big jump in ability the past 12 months. So we can say with confidence that Kerr can obviously run a much faster mile and 5k than he has ran in the past. Will a fully fit Jakob beat this version of Kerr over 1500? Possibly, I wouldn't say probably. Jakob doesn't have the kick that Kerr has, Kerr also has the fitness to be there until the end too.
So it's much closer than you make out. It doesn't matter how many times Jakob beat Josh in 2020 or 2021. We are in 2024
Kerr has definitely gotten better, but the comparison is definitely still not there. This will mostly be answered by Pre and the olympic final, but as of now, Jakob is still #1.
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No comparison. One is world 🌎 champ and one is not
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You’re right. Kerr has twice as many global gold medals in the last year as Jakob does. That means Kerr is twice as good as Jakob.
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yeah but no wrote:
You're missing the part where Kerr just ran an 8 minute 2 mile, a time that was seen as completely untouchable until Jakob ran 7:54. And YES, Jakob has ran 7:54 outside. Kerr didn't have any pacing lights too.
But Jakob has been injured for a large portion of the year, and Kerr has had a big jump in ability the past 12 months. So we can say with confidence that Kerr can obviously run a much faster mile and 5k than he has ran in the past. Will a fully fit Jakob beat this version of Kerr over 1500? Possibly, I wouldn't say probably. Jakob doesn't have the kick that Kerr has, Kerr also has the fitness to be there until the end too.
So it's much closer than you make out. It doesn't matter how many times Jakob beat Josh in 2020 or 2021. We are in 2024
That's like an 8:10 in 2005-era spikes.
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Dekook wrote:
Just to be clear:
Jakob ingebrigtsen and Josh Kerr are 12 and 2 in the 1500 and 1 and 0 in the 5k.
Ingebrigtsen’s 800 off of 120 mile weeks is 1:46.44; just over a second slower than Kerr’s.
Ingebrigtsen’s 1500 is 3:27.14; nearly 2 seconds faster than Kerr’s.
JAKOB’S MILE IS 5.1 SECONDS FASTER THAN JOSH’S.
HIS 3k IS 7 SECONDS FASTER THAN JAKE’S.
JOSH TOOK THE INDOOR WORLD RECORD IN THE 2 MILE AND WAS WITH GRANT FISCHER UNTIL 300 TO GO; JAKOB HAS RUN 6 SECONDS FASTER SOLO.
JAKOB HAS THE NUMBER 19 ALL TIME 5k IN 12:48.45; KERR IS 1088 ALL TIME.
Jakob can dictate whether the Olympic 1500 is fast, if someone else doesn’t take it out he will, and no one in the world can run a faster 1500m than him.
Jakob Ingebrigtsen is rightfully insulted by this comparison, and is simply defending himself with his comments about Kerr.I’m pretty sure one of the two times Kerr beat Jakob was in a prelim so really he’s only beaten him one time in races that everyone was trying to win.
Jakob is the better runner. Josh is probably marginally better at 800m and Jakob is marginally better at 1500m (one loss to Kerr notwithstanding). But, Jakob is far better at 3k, 5k, 10k, XC, and while he hasn’t raced a HM I think we all know Jakob would put several minutes on Kerr in a half.
However, none of this matters when they line up for the Olympic final in Paris. The better man on the day will emerge victorious, whether it be Jakob, Kerr, Nuguse, or another contender.
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The most important difference is that Kerr is a much better son than Jakob. Whereas Jakob treats his father like crap and doesn’t show any gratitude for what his father did for him, Kerr got choked up while thanking his parents for all their support after he won his first gold medal.
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bekele boi wrote:
No comparison. One is world 🌎 champ and one is not
And one is Olympic champ and one is not!
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ndxc02 wrote:
And one is Olympic champ and one is not!
That will change in about 3 months.
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yeah but no wrote:
You're missing the part where Kerr just ran an 8 minute 2 mile, a time that was seen as completely untouchable until Jakob ran 7:54. And YES, Jakob has ran 7:54 outside. Kerr didn't have any pacing lights too.
But Jakob has been injured for a large portion of the year, and Kerr has had a big jump in ability the past 12 months. So we can say with confidence that Kerr can obviously run a much faster mile and 5k than he has ran in the past. Will a fully fit Jakob beat this version of Kerr over 1500? Possibly, I wouldn't say probably. Jakob doesn't have the kick that Kerr has, Kerr also has the fitness to be there until the end too.
So it's much closer than you make out. It doesn't matter how many times Jakob beat Josh in 2020 or 2021. We are in 2024
*has run
Kerr had Fisher as his pace lights.
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Kerrific wrote:
ndxc02 wrote:
And one is Olympic champ and one is not!
That will change in about 3 months.
Doubtful. The odds of someone other than Kerr or Jakob winning are higher than Kerr winning. Jakob probably has the best odds and Kerr second best. I’d take the field over Kerr but I’m not so sure I’d take the field over Jakob. Speaks to Jakob’s “just the next guy” comment.
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Kerrific wrote:
The most important difference is that Kerr is a much better son than Jakob. Whereas Jakob treats his father like crap and doesn’t show any gratitude for what his father did for him, Kerr got choked up while thanking his parents for all their support after he won his first gold medal.
Ask him about tanking his 1600m relay leg at ncaa indoors so he could be fresh the next day. Kerr only cares about Kerr- don’t be fooled.
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😆 As if running a relay is as important as being a loving, loyal, and grateful son
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Jakob is clearly the better runner and is going to have the better career when it’s all said and done.
But winning in any sport matters and Jakob has struggled to win in the 1500 on the biggest stage so far
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Let's give them boxing gloves and have them run a no holds barred 3000m steeplechase.
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Bro Gjert in abusive. I think we can end the conversation there.
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letsrun.com is a soap opera
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GroveRunner wrote:
Jakob is clearly the better runner and is going to have the better career when it’s all said and done.
But winning in any sport matters and Jakob has struggled to win in the 1500 on the biggest stage so far
He has Olympic gold and two WC silvers; nobody has won more global golds and nobody has won more global medals than him who is actively running. Until that changes, he is the big dog.
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