even after 11th at worlds. criminally underrated
zach panning not being in the lrc top 5 2023 marathon rankings is absurd
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zachattackk wrote:
even after 11th at worlds. criminally underrated
Workout warrior lol. Left it all on the Florida roads for that 16 miler on the 15th and again last Sunday. He’ll crash and burn with the big boys. Might even get an 11th place finish that you’re talking up so big.
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Where is the rankings
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Panning was 13th at Worlds.
But marathon rankings are a crapshoot and I'll admit that. Most of these guys only ran one race. How does a 2:08 in a rabbitted race in good conditions in Chicago compare to a 2:11 in a championship race in the heat of Budapest? There's no right answer. I gave the edge to the guys who ran faster but obviously Panning could have run a lot faster than 2:11 in better conditions.
Where would you have ranked him? I don't think he can be above Mantz or Fauble but there's an argument for having Panning anywhere from #3 to #6.
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They don't have to be a "crapshoot" if you have a legit method with robust tools for analyzing performance.
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What rankings?
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ElephantRider wrote:
Where is the rankings
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Nah dont even wrote:
zachattackk wrote:
even after 11th at worlds. criminally underrated
Workout warrior lol. Left it all on the Florida roads for that 16 miler on the 15th and again last Sunday. He’ll crash and burn with the big boys. Might even get an 11th place finish that you’re talking up so big.
Right. 1x11th at world championship marathon is a great workout.
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zachattackk wrote:
even after 11th at worlds. criminally underrated
WC/olympic finishes lose a lot of value for people who weren’t racing for medals. Too many drop outs/jogging it in when there isn’t anything on the line when talking about finishes outside the top 10.
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it is time, wrote:
Nah dont even wrote:
Workout warrior lol. Left it all on the Florida roads for that 16 miler on the 15th and again last Sunday. He’ll crash and burn with the big boys. Might even get an 11th place finish that you’re talking up so big.
Right. 1x11th at world championship marathon is a great workout.
This is crazy, honestly. 13th at worlds in a 2:11:21 and he's automatically put on a pedestal? He is on the B team. That’s the whole reason he ran at worlds. Our best runners didn’t opt to run at worlds.
Jared Ward was 6th at the Olympics in 2:11:30 and we all know he’s not the best in the US.
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I was most surprised by Fauble’s number 2 ranking.
Also, assuming he finishes in the top 3 at the trials, does Fauble have a WA approved sub 2:11:30 if he doesn’t qualify by World Ranking and doesn’t run sub 2:11:30 at the trials.
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Jonathan Gault wrote:
Panning was 13th at Worlds.
But marathon rankings are a crapshoot and I'll admit that. Most of these guys only ran one race. How does a 2:08 in a rabbitted race in good conditions in Chicago compare to a 2:11 in a championship race in the heat of Budapest? There's no right answer. I gave the edge to the guys who ran faster but obviously Panning could have run a lot faster than 2:11 in better conditions.
Where would you have ranked him? I don't think he can be above Mantz or Fauble but there's an argument for having Panning anywhere from #3 to #6.
Congrats on the rankings. Everyone has an opinion. I am interested to hear some more, even about the world top ten.
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imissscottsmith wrote:
I was most surprised by Fauble’s number 2 ranking.
Also, assuming he finishes in the top 3 at the trials, does Fauble have a WA approved sub 2:11:30 if he doesn’t qualify by World Ranking and doesn’t run sub 2:11:30 at the trials.
This. Just because he uses a sauna blanket doesn't mean he's #2 in the US.
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Nah dont even wrote:
it is time, wrote:
Right. 1x11th at world championship marathon is a great workout.
This is crazy, honestly. 13th at worlds in a 2:11:21 and he's automatically put on a pedestal? He is on the B team. That’s the whole reason he ran at worlds. Our best runners didn’t opt to run at worlds.
Jared Ward was 6th at the Olympics in 2:11:30 and we all know he’s not the best in the US.
what's the point in running if you don't want to compete against the best in the world?
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im tired of all the hansons guys commenting on their threads every 3 hours so they come back up ... but yeah zach should be on there.
he was #5 in 2022 right? his worlds performance was very impressive. it's almost like his 13th at worlds in the heat meant nothing
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Nah dont even wrote:
it is time, wrote:
Right. 1x11th at world championship marathon is a great workout.
This is crazy, honestly. 13th at worlds in a 2:11:21 and he's automatically put on a pedestal? He is on the B team. That’s the whole reason he ran at worlds. Our best runners didn’t opt to run at worlds.
Jared Ward was 6th at the Olympics in 2:11:30 and we all know he’s not the best in the US.
agreed. people should care about worlds for the marathon but they dont.
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Aussiestatman wrote:
Jonathan Gault wrote:
Panning was 13th at Worlds.
But marathon rankings are a crapshoot and I'll admit that. Most of these guys only ran one race. How does a 2:08 in a rabbitted race in good conditions in Chicago compare to a 2:11 in a championship race in the heat of Budapest? There's no right answer. I gave the edge to the guys who ran faster but obviously Panning could have run a lot faster than 2:11 in better conditions.
Where would you have ranked him? I don't think he can be above Mantz or Fauble but there's an argument for having Panning anywhere from #3 to #6.
Congrats on the rankings. Everyone has an opinion. I am interested to hear some more, even about the world top ten.
I think Kamworor did enough to get a place in the ten. Second in London ahead of Tola, Leul, and Tura with Bekele not able to get to the 30k marker
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LetsFart wrote:
They don't have to be a "crapshoot" if you have a legit method with robust tools for analyzing performance.
It's still a marathon - which means there's dozens of things that can go wrong with any number of runners, even the ones you consider locks.
Also, do you know where I can pick up a Robust Performance Analyzer 3000?
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Stephen A Smith has at least one ridiculous take a week. Why? It draws attention to ESPN and it gets people talking. Same thing here. I honestly don’t believe that these guys are as ignorant to so many situations as their takes but they need to bring eyes and dollars to the site.
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Bad takes produce $ wrote:
Stephen A Smith has at least one ridiculous take a week. Why? It draws attention to ESPN and it gets people talking. Same thing here. I honestly don’t believe that these guys are as ignorant to so many situations as their takes but they need to bring eyes and dollars to the site.
I believe a portion of the troll posts are from for this same reason. :D
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