New Balance employee admits that the Fuelcell SC Trainer was 100% EVA

I posted this an hour ago but someone deleted it for "no reason given". Can't go posting damning info that makes makes a Letsrun sponsor look bad, now can we?

Calling him an employee then saying he’s a rep is a little misleading. Does the cashier really know where Wegman’s get’s their chicken?

What's your point "anonymous"? The person in question is likely a product manager. I have no idea who he is or his seniority. The only thing that matters is that he's with NB and speaks for NB. He worked the booth at TRE and did the presentations. He's featured on numerous videos.

This is an NB marketing issue. Not specific to any one person. There can be allowances for marketing. Some ambiguity. But I think NB pushes it to far. They're now trying to claim that their upcoming shoe models, Rebel v4, SC Trainer v3 and possibly the Balos, feature "PEBA blended" midsoles. Problem is the new Rebel and SC Trainer are reportedly 80% EVA. The midsole is only one-fifth PEBA. It's arguably deceptive to refer to that mix as a PEBA blended. Some, if not most, consumers are going to assume "PEBA blended" implies that the midsole is either half or mostly PEBA.

nb never said it was peba tho. fuelcell comes in difierent makes and versions, most of the currant/old ones were gas injected (supercritical) tpe i think.

Guys. People ran in the shoe and liked it. Hell, by your own anguished tone it sounds like you did too, until this startling reveal. Stop getting so caught up what name is printed on the sidewall foam, find what works for you and roll with it. No one ever called it PEBA, you just decided this in your mothers basement while you fawned over Alex Filiti crushing the heel of a shoe on instagram. Let's move on.

But they weren't transparent about most of the FC models being 100% EVA until just recently. Also, the 2024 models will be the first FC shoes to have TPE.

You're probably the same "anonymous" poster that had my previous thread nuked with a false spam report.

Where did anyone ever claim it was peba?

Don't know what it was made of, but the old NB fuelcell in the rc elite, 5280, Rebel 2 and ldx was way bouncier than what they have now even if what they have now is peba. The new spikes and the sc elite 4 feel dead.

I don't care a out this crap. Give me a minimal show that is comfortable, not carbon bouncy garbage.

I've read several posts on Reddit's r/RunningShoeGeek sub that relate to the SC Trainer. The consensus is that SCT V2 is softer and less bouncy than the original V1. It's possible that the V1 midsole may have been blended with TPU. NB may have cheaped out with V2. Not just lowering the midsole stack but also switching to 100% EVA. This wouldn't surprise me given the inflationary pressures on raw materials in 2022 when the V2 was emerging from the development stage and entering the wear-testing stage.

I agree with this. Supposedly, lots of foams out here are next gen soft. Maybe the carbon plate technology is the real reason they can use them.

It was TPU blended with EVA.

v2 was a higher percentage of EVA because they wanted to firm up the shoe to give it a more responsive feel after feedback from consumers indicating they liked the shoe overall but that it didn't meet their expectations of being an adidas Boston competitor. Had nothing to do with the economy.

Also re: the NB rep Chris up there, he definitely misspoke there. v2 had EVA but not 100%. Doesn't even pass the smell test -- you just can't get that level of squish from only EVA.

So, what does that mean?