Dude left high school the same year as a guy who has been in the NBA for seven years. And they have another grandpa who is only a junior at 25.5 years young who will be the new oldest player next year. byu is out of control with the age cheating.
byu has the oldest player in NCAA basketball
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they are grandpas wrote:
Dude left high school the same year as a guy who has been in the NBA for seven years. And they have another grandpa who is only a junior at 25.5 years young who will be the new oldest player next year. byu is out of control with the age cheating.
Athletes at BYU are actually at a disadvantage because they take 2 yrs totally off training in their youth to do missions (outreach/volunteering). On top of that a lot of athletes at BYU are straight white men so they already get look at as uninteresting/not hip by society. Have compassion.
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NotABYURunnerBoy wrote:
they are grandpas wrote:
Dude left high school the same year as a guy who has been in the NBA for seven years. And they have another grandpa who is only a junior at 25.5 years young who will be the new oldest player next year. byu is out of control with the age cheating.
Athletes at BYU are actually at a disadvantage because they take 2 yrs totally off training in their youth to do missions (outreach/volunteering). On top of that a lot of athletes at BYU are straight white men so they already get look at as uninteresting/not hip by society. Have compassion.
I'm genuinely mind blown that people think BYU is at some massive advantage for this. One of the biggest advantages of age is having experience, which there just isn't much of at all on a mission. Even bending the rules to exercise for an hour instead of 30 minutes isn't going to be enough for serious training at any sport. With football there's the size thing, but I don't think BYU's Oline is particularly large for the big XII. With how people complain about it you'd think that they're winning a ton of national titles. Also, if the missions are such a huge advantage, why is it rare for their female athletes to go on missions? They certainly are allowed to, but not pushed as hard as the guys to do it, and it turns out that when there isn't a big push for it, not many college athletes do it.
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gidbob wrote:
NotABYURunnerBoy wrote:
Athletes at BYU are actually at a disadvantage because they take 2 yrs totally off training in their youth to do missions (outreach/volunteering). On top of that a lot of athletes at BYU are straight white men so they already get look at as uninteresting/not hip by society. Have compassion.
I'm genuinely mind blown that people think BYU is at some massive advantage for this. One of the biggest advantages of age is having experience, which there just isn't much of at all on a mission. Even bending the rules to exercise for an hour instead of 30 minutes isn't going to be enough for serious training at any sport. With football there's the size thing, but I don't think BYU's Oline is particularly large for the big XII. With how people complain about it you'd think that they're winning a ton of national titles. Also, if the missions are such a huge advantage, why is it rare for their female athletes to go on missions? They certainly are allowed to, but not pushed as hard as the guys to do it, and it turns out that when there isn't a big push for it, not many college athletes do it.
Let's be honest here. If these students were minorities or atheists they would have zero problem with this.
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Random. wrote:
gidbob wrote:
I'm genuinely mind blown that people think BYU is at some massive advantage for this. One of the biggest advantages of age is having experience, which there just isn't much of at all on a mission. Even bending the rules to exercise for an hour instead of 30 minutes isn't going to be enough for serious training at any sport. With football there's the size thing, but I don't think BYU's Oline is particularly large for the big XII. With how people complain about it you'd think that they're winning a ton of national titles. Also, if the missions are such a huge advantage, why is it rare for their female athletes to go on missions? They certainly are allowed to, but not pushed as hard as the guys to do it, and it turns out that when there isn't a big push for it, not many college athletes do it.
Let's be honest here. If these students were minorities or atheists they would have zero problem with this.
Well, aren't byu students atheist by definition?
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gidbob wrote:
NotABYURunnerBoy wrote:
Athletes at BYU are actually at a disadvantage because they take 2 yrs totally off training in their youth to do missions (outreach/volunteering). On top of that a lot of athletes at BYU are straight white men so they already get look at as uninteresting/not hip by society. Have compassion.
I'm genuinely mind blown that people think BYU is at some massive advantage for this. One of the biggest advantages of age is having experience, which there just isn't much of at all on a mission. Even bending the rules to exercise for an hour instead of 30 minutes isn't going to be enough for serious training at any sport. With football there's the size thing, but I don't think BYU's Oline is particularly large for the big XII. With how people complain about it you'd think that they're winning a ton of national titles. Also, if the missions are such a huge advantage, why is it rare for their female athletes to go on missions? They certainly are allowed to, but not pushed as hard as the guys to do it, and it turns out that when there isn't a big push for it, not many college athletes do it.
I'll add that for runners they almost always have a slow companion, so the best training they could ever have would require dragging a companion to a track every morning and staying there for like an hour, or maybe a companion following on a bike. But this is the best possible training that can be done and requires some rule bending, and I'd be surprised if they manage to pull that off regularly. It would require ideal circumstances to even get 6 hours a week in. Maybe the BYU distance guys all force as much running as they can on their missions and get close to that, but I honestly doubt it.
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they are grandpas wrote:
Random. wrote:
Let's be honest here. If these students were minorities or atheists they would have zero problem with this.
Well, aren't byu students atheist by definition?
So you hate them and you don't even know what they believe.
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gidbob wrote:
gidbob wrote:
I'm genuinely mind blown that people think BYU is at some massive advantage for this. One of the biggest advantages of age is having experience, which there just isn't much of at all on a mission. Even bending the rules to exercise for an hour instead of 30 minutes isn't going to be enough for serious training at any sport. With football there's the size thing, but I don't think BYU's Oline is particularly large for the big XII. With how people complain about it you'd think that they're winning a ton of national titles. Also, if the missions are such a huge advantage, why is it rare for their female athletes to go on missions? They certainly are allowed to, but not pushed as hard as the guys to do it, and it turns out that when there isn't a big push for it, not many college athletes do it.
I'll add that for runners they almost always have a slow companion, so the best training they could ever have would require dragging a companion to a track every morning and staying there for like an hour, or maybe a companion following on a bike. But this is the best possible training that can be done and requires some rule bending, and I'd be surprised if they manage to pull that off regularly. It would require ideal circumstances to even get 6 hours a week in. Maybe the BYU distance guys all force as much running as they can on their missions and get close to that, but I honestly doubt it.
I'm sure Conner Mantz will be devastated when he finds out a hobby jogger thinks he's slow solely because of his religion.
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D2 has no age limit. Imagine competing as a 19 year old against guys in their late 20s and early 30s. Not as a whole but at the top it was very competitive. Quite a few Olympic level runners. You could cry about it or appreciate getting to be in races with guys that good.
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Not a big deal. Casey Clinger will probably be about 35 by the time he’s done at BYU.
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I hear that the BYU basketball coach is going hard to sign Uncle Drew for next year's team.
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They actually take less time students at other universities. Most students at BYU graduate in 4 years of study while other colleges take more than 4.5 years. Athletes at BYU who are in 5th year of school are earning masters degees.
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Random. wrote:
gidbob wrote:
I'll add that for runners they almost always have a slow companion, so the best training they could ever have would require dragging a companion to a track every morning and staying there for like an hour, or maybe a companion following on a bike. But this is the best possible training that can be done and requires some rule bending, and I'd be surprised if they manage to pull that off regularly. It would require ideal circumstances to even get 6 hours a week in. Maybe the BYU distance guys all force as much running as they can on their missions and get close to that, but I honestly doubt it.
I'm sure Conner Mantz will be devastated when he finds out a hobby jogger thinks he's slow solely because of his religion.
I don't think Mantz is slow, I think his mission companions were because they for the most part didn't run at all. And even if they did they were slow by his standards.
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10 posts in and nobody has said how old this guy is
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Classic posting wrote:
10 posts in and nobody has said how old this guy is
almost 27
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gidbob wrote:
gidbob wrote:
I'm genuinely mind blown that people think BYU is at some massive advantage for this. One of the biggest advantages of age is having experience, which there just isn't much of at all on a mission. Even bending the rules to exercise for an hour instead of 30 minutes isn't going to be enough for serious training at any sport. With football there's the size thing, but I don't think BYU's Oline is particularly large for the big XII. With how people complain about it you'd think that they're winning a ton of national titles. Also, if the missions are such a huge advantage, why is it rare for their female athletes to go on missions? They certainly are allowed to, but not pushed as hard as the guys to do it, and it turns out that when there isn't a big push for it, not many college athletes do it.
I'll add that for runners they almost always have a slow companion, so the best training they could ever have would require dragging a companion to a track every morning and staying there for like an hour, or maybe a companion following on a bike. But this is the best possible training that can be done and requires some rule bending, and I'd be surprised if they manage to pull that off regularly. It would require ideal circumstances to even get 6 hours a week in. Maybe the BYU distance guys all force as much running as they can on their missions and get close to that, but I honestly doubt it.
My son is a D1 commit over a year out on a mission. He has his running shoes and wants to be running, but he’s yet to have a companion who will run with him (missionaries can’t go out on their own for a run). He’s very out of shape for running, but his basketball game has slightly improved.
I talked to the parent of another who had the same story.
I’m sure there’s been some who have pulled it off though.
As to the basketball players, it is widely known that a mission is absolutely terrible for skill based sports and speed based athletes. FB lineman probably get the most out of it just because of the increased size with age, though being older tends to hurt them in the draft.
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they are grandpas wrote:
Classic posting wrote:
10 posts in and nobody has said how old this guy is
almost 27
Who is it?
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A two minute google search told me he’s the second oldest player in the NCAA00
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they are grandpas wrote:
Classic posting wrote:
10 posts in and nobody has said how old this guy is
almost 27
I would hardly say having a birthday in September makes you “almost” a year older right now (it’s January if you didn’t know)
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