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  • dsdsdsdsada

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    6 months ago 01/03/2024 2:35am EST

    he beats me in every 10k, he runs 33.xx and i run 34.xx

    i beat him in every marathon, my PB 2:39, his PB 2:47

    he has speed but no endurance, i watch him run and his running action is not efficient for long distance, he's too 'bouncy'.

    this is a 30k trail race.

    i think if i start fast he will feel like he has to stay with me, and this will tire him out half way through the race because he doesn't have the same endurance. but 30k is maybe not quite long enough for him to blow up. usually in marathons it's about the 30k point when people start to tire, isn't it? so what does letsrun think about this strategy?

    also he is russian, what if i wear blue and yellow attire. it might get him running on pure hate and that will only be sustainable for 15k maximum.

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    Run4fun69

    Member since 12/21/2023.

    508 posts. Last post 4 months ago.
    6 months ago 01/03/2024 2:58am EST
    re: dsdsdsdsada

    Maybe make a decisive break on a hilly section, then dig in and hang on?

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    qinlyem535

    Member since 01/03/2024.

    3 posts. Last post 2 weeks ago.
    6 months ago 01/03/2024 4:16am EST
    re: dsdsdsdsada

    dsdsdsdsadalewdle wrote:

    he beats me in every 10k, he runs 33.xx and i run 34.xx

    i beat him in every marathon, my PB 2:39, his PB 2:47

    he has speed but no endurance, i watch him run and his running action is not efficient for long distance, he's too 'bouncy'.

    this is a 30k trail race.

    i think if i start fast he will feel like he has to stay with me, and this will tire him out half way through the race because he doesn't have the same endurance. but 30k is maybe not quite long enough for him to blow up. usually in marathons it's about the 30k point when people start to tire, isn't it? so what does letsrun think about this strategy?

    also he is russian, what if i wear blue and yellow attire. it might get him running on pure hate and that will only be sustainable for 15k maximum.

    But the downside is that it fries your running shirt pretty quickly. You get this 1" honeycomb spot from the friction where you have the tape.

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    5k10krunner

    Member since 12/24/2023.

    16 posts. Last post 5 months ago.
    6 months ago 01/03/2024 6:40am EST
    re: dsdsdsdsada

    Do a kick in the middle of the race and try and make him go at your ridiculous pace then slow down and he might carry on at a ridiculous pace and burn out

  • Jeff Gillooly

    Anonymous Poster

    6 months ago 01/03/2024 7:25am EST
    re: dsdsdsdsada

    I can help...DM me

  • where are they now

    Anonymous Poster

    6 months ago 01/03/2024 8:42am EST
    re: Jeff Gillooly

    Jeff Gillooly wrote:

    I can help...DM me

    This is very funny...after I finally remembered who jg was.

  • #goals

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    6 months ago 01/03/2024 8:44am EST
    re: dsdsdsdsada

    My goal in life is to trigger someone into making a post like this about me.

  • dsdsdsdsada

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    6 months ago 01/03/2024 9:00am EST
    re: #goals

    make your parents proud!

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    Bullet the Blue Sky

    Member since 01/13/2016.

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    6 months ago 01/03/2024 9:37am EST
    re: dsdsdsdsada

    You're better at him over longer distances and a trail race favors strength over speed, which is also to your advantage. Just hang with him for the first half and wait for him to get tired. Somewhere around 13-15 miles you should know if he's fading. Then start trying to break him by increasing the pace.

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    sub sub elite local hobby jogger

    Member since 12/20/2018.

    1,908 posts. Last post 1 week ago.
    6 months ago 01/03/2024 11:41am EST
    re: dsdsdsdsada

    Ha, this post could be about me. There are runners that have a 15-20 faster PR than me in the marathon and I absolutely rinse them in the shorter distances. But I don't think they really care while my marathon PR is burning a hole in my brain.

  • StillCompeting

    Member since 03/01/2021.

    207 posts. Last post 1 week ago.
    6 months ago 01/04/2024 11:30pm EST
    re: sub sub elite local hobby jogger

    sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

    Ha, this post could be about me. There are runners that have a 15-20 faster PR than me in the marathon and I absolutely rinse them in the shorter distances. But I don't think they really care while my marathon PR is burning a hole in my brain.

    This is the much simpler problem to solve, of course.

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    sub sub elite local hobby jogger

    Member since 12/20/2018.

    1,908 posts. Last post 1 week ago.
    6 months ago 01/05/2024 3:41pm EST
    re: StillCompeting

    StillCompeting wrote:

    sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

    Ha, this post could be about me. There are runners that have a 15-20 faster PR than me in the marathon and I absolutely rinse them in the shorter distances. But I don't think they really care while my marathon PR is burning a hole in my brain.

    This is the much simpler problem to solve, of course.

    Correct, if Nick Bare could do it while over the ideal weight, I can do it as well.

  • dsdsdsdsada

    Anonymous Poster

    6 months ago 01/07/2024 4:59am EST
    re: dsdsdsdsada

    the Russian beat me by 2 minutes. I feel like I have let the forum down and also Ukraine down 🙁

    he started very fast, built up a lead and I caught up after about 15k, when he saw me behind him he shot off again and even though I pressed really hard in the last 5k to try and at least get within sight of him, I didn't see him again until the finish line

  • u shood

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    6 months ago 01/07/2024 5:02am EST
    re: dsdsdsdsada

    dsdsdsdsada wrote:

    the Russian beat me by 2 minutes. I feel like I have let the forum down and also Ukraine down 🙁

    he started very fast, built up a lead and I caught up after about 15k, when he saw me behind him he shot off again and even though I pressed really hard in the last 5k to try and at least get within sight of him, I didn't see him again until the finish line

    You should get JS to coach him. That's guaranteed to make him slower.

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    JustMe22

    Member since 02/03/2008.

    1,141 posts. Last post 3 days ago.
    6 months ago 01/07/2024 8:47am EST
    re: dsdsdsdsada

    Match him stride-for-stride and make a break at a point where you feel your endurance gives you the edge. Don't forget to shake his hand after, no matter the outcome. And please don't dress in the colors of the Ukrainian flag. He likely won't care, but if he does, it's disrespectful. No need to inject politics into competition. Good luck!

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